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Old 07-18-2013, 12:32 PM   #21
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I'm not a reloader
I think this is the deal killer for me. There's no question the .357 SIG is a very effective SD round. I myself am rather fascinated by the rounds performance and have considered more than once picking up a pistol chambered for it.

However, if you don't reload (and are not independently wealthy!) I don't think the extra cost and difficulty of finding ammo justifies any minor advantages the .357 SIG might have over the better 9mm, .40S&W or .45ACP offerings.
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:18 PM   #22
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One of my considerations was to get the 357 bbl for my 40 S&W. Several platforms require only a bbl change to go from 40 to 357. Something to consider!

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The 357 sig was designed to duplicate the performance of a 125 gr 357 Remington magnum in cartridge that would work well in a semi automatic. It does just that but I would rather have a revolver and larger bullets.

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Had a sig p229 years ago that was factory .357 sig. I loved the round but ended up getting a .40 barrel from sig because of the lack of ammo in stores and the price back then was higher. I've been told that the bottled shape of the cartridges makes feeding more reliable. It really is a bit more snappy though but not unmanageable. I mostly shot .40 but carried .357 sig. Same capacity as .40

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Old 08-01-2013, 03:02 AM   #25
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No they are not. That is point. It has been found that the 1250 fps (.355/.357) is all you need to achieve the 'maximum' possible effect on an aggressive human animal. Anything over this velocity (1250 fps) by a bullet of .355/.357 diameter in the 115-130 gr (JHP) range is 'over kill' thus the very slight difference in the wound cavity has no realistic advantage.
You have not done enough research or you would know that the above information you are spouting is wrong. Too many greenhorns read something written by other greenhorns and pass it on as the truth. The 9mm +P+ comes closer to the .357 Sig than anything else but it does not equal it's performance. You need to look at all the real life story's of LE that have used most all calibers. You can find many videos of different tests and the are a lot that use something besides gel. If the .357 Sig ammo used is not the designed 125 grain at 1450 fps then it is not .357 Sig it is just a hot 9mm and that is where all the false information gets started. Check out the tnoutdors9 videos for gel tests of a lot of different ammo. Google .357 Sig wound picture and see what you think. Sorry if I stepped on your toes but you really should know what you are talking about before you post.
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Whoa whoa whoa...you're saying that $16-22 ain't cheap for .380, .40, .45, or anything similar? Please let me know where you're getting your range ammo, cause even before this latest ammo crisis, I have never seen range ammo (brass) in either of those 3 calipers cheaper than what you said. 9mm on the other hand, yes. This time last year I could get a decent 50 round box of 9mm for anywhere from $8-12. But not for .380, .40, or .45. And most of your popular revolver rounds that I've seen are even worse.
I've bought lotsa 40sw for $13-14/box in the last year. Even got JHPs for $15 per 50. For 45acp I've paid $15-17/box. I don't own a 380acp (or a purse) so I've got nothing there.

You're not gonna find much at those prices right now, but maybe in 6 months.
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Over penetration is like flying saucers. Everyone talks about it but none has been seen.
Oh really? There's a guy sitting in jail here in Michigan for just that. He was shooting at the bad guy who stole his truck, one of the errant rounds blew thru a neighbor's wall and killed a grandmother in her own kitchen.
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Oh really? There's a guy sitting in jail here in Michigan for just that. He was shooting at the bad guy who stole his truck, one of the errant rounds blew thru a neighbor's wall and killed a grandmother in her own kitchen.
That is a flat out miss. Over penetration is supposed to be when the bullet passes through the person you are shooting and hits someone else also. As I have said before in other places if you are going to worry about something worry about missing your intended target. Ask the guy in jail. Sounds like he was spraying bullets.
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He was shooting at a guy who stole his truck????

That sounds like reason enough to put him in prison all by itself.

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I would steal his truck if he would the shoot grandmother in my kitchen !

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