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Old 11-24-2012, 06:31 PM   #71
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Yeah, thanks for the sarcasm. This was my position; I'm 62 years old, I was in Canada where you can't carry a gun, a knife bigger than a penknife, or even pepper spray. So what's YOUR brilliant easy solution? Sorry, I couldn't learn Shaolin Kung Fu or Gracie JiuJitsu in 2 weeks. Suggestions?
Move to a country where you can carry guns, and we dont say "aboot".
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Alright, I looked at a few different videos showing the possible defensive uses of these pens. It's not meant to stab, necessarily, but rather jab, and do so continuously. Also it can provide one with an extension to their standard grip, or fist, giving a tool for prying and poking soft spots to either overcome holds or create your own with more efficiency. This is where a plastic pen could possibly snap. Now could doesn't at all mean would, but why take the chance, if you're going to carry a pen anyway, which I do, why not have one that could provide more defensive properties? Plus why use one of my expensive hardwood pieces and risk beaming them when a decent aluminum one can be had for under 20...

I also learned to keep it simple with these. When each end is something that has a defensive purpose you have nothing left to use for leverage yourself, without risking doing equal damage to you. I've decided I'm getting two.

Now, all that said, they really only have true value when the one wielding them has a broad knowledge of pressure points and the application of defense using them, but there are always the eyes and throat which everyone knows, and why risk jamming your fingers when your super cool pen can do it for ya.

I see the light. Hahahahaha

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When each end is something that has a defensive purpose you have nothing left to use for leverage yourself, without risking doing equal damage to you.
Most of the ones I've seen have a pointy end and a flat end. Put thumb on flat end and you can probably draw blood with each stroke. If you know pressure points, etc. they can be much more effective. But in untrained hands, they're still better than untrained BARE hands.

Glad you've seen the light!
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Most of the ones I've seen have a pointy end and a flat end. Put thumb on flat end and you can probably draw blood with each stroke. If you know pressure points, etc. they can be much more effective. But in untrained hands, they're still better than untrained BARE hands.

Glad you've seen the light!
There are some with pointed end and glass breaker end which would leave both parties in pain. I love the multitool function of those, but bad idea for defense purpose. Also noted that one should concentrate on finding a pen with screwed cap. Those with twist and spring actions are only possible cause for slippage during defensive use. Too, I'm not at all a fan of the cap clips, as they also might prove to be obstructive and flesh treating to the users' hand. Still, I'd rather gouge a wee bit of my hand while striking my attacker into an incapacitated state than rely on something less capable of defending me.

Another thought and use was as a simple fistpack, if nothing else, so it really does have value to anyone.
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Just picked up these 2 today...

S&W M&P SDP
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Schrade Tactical 2
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And, while I was there, just because it was so cute...

Fury Kubotan
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Hahahaha I'm so impulsive. Terrible I tell ya. Me and online shopping is a real bad combo!

Self taken shots to follow, once they arrive.
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Move to a country where you can carry guns, and we dont say "aboot".
I live in Texas.
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I live in Texas.
Ah must've misread, you were visiting good ole Canadia then eh? Texas is a fine land, loved Austin, much like my Portland, but with prettier women per capita.
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I was once told by a wise old man (my father's CO when he was in the corp) that the most dangerous weapon is the human mind. In a your life hangs in the balance fight anything is a weapon. With that in mind, I started carrying metal pens when I was in highschool. When used in conjunction with the pressure points my dad taught me, they has been an effective conflict resolution tool. I still will never refer to then as "tactical", but having one on me have saved my @ss once or twice.

One of my friends and I teach a self defense course to people with physical disabilities ( we are both amputees, and I am blind in one eye, a life changing injury plants a huge seed of doubt in your mind when it comes to defending yourself and those you care about). Part of what we teach is that anything can be used as a weapon. There are several ways to defend yourself with anything from a roll of quarters to a cane with a hooked handle. Car keys are a handy weapon when used on the soft spots, rolled coin is a suitable replacement for brass knukles, and an ice scapper can leave one he!! of a gouge on flesh. I will probably look into a few of these tactical pens for my wife and daughter. They are both at the school during the week, and I personally would feel a lot better knowing that they have a tool that can be used as a weapon, just in case. The biggest thing that my friend and I preach in class is to avoid trouble if possible, but be prepared if trouble finds you. These pens are far better than nothing more than your bare hands if a problem arises.
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Ah must've misread, you were visiting good ole Canadia then eh? Texas is a fine land, loved Austin, much like my Portland, but with prettier women per capita.
Yes, the Canada trip was 5 days on a cruise ship. Great food, great ports of call, great entertainment, terrible coffee.

I will not be visiting Mexico anytime soon, even though it is much closer to Texas...
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I will not be visiting Mexico anytime soon, even though it is much closer to Texas...
Don't blame ya one bit.
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