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Old 06-21-2014, 07:31 PM   #1
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I can cause your (eventual) death with an icepick stab to your liver, but it might well take you MANY minutes to actually keel over. Each of your attackers can stab/club/shoot you 4x per second (with each hand). So I suggest that you not give any of them an "extra" 1/4 second that you don't have to! :-) Just cause the guy dies from a .22 (eventually) does not mean that shooting him saved his intended victim. Many people survive being shot, so stopping him is not necessarily lethal.

I can stop you, without fail, with a non-lethal blow across your gut, using a ball bat. So forget about merely looking at "who died, from what" studies. The bad guy's death does not show you if he was STOPPED (in time to save his would-be victim).


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Old 06-21-2014, 07:47 PM   #2
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I can cause your (eventual) death with an icepick stab to your liver, but it might well take you MANY minutes to actually keel over. Each of your attackers can stab/club/shoot you 4x per second (with each hand). So I suggest that you not give any of them an "extra" 1/4 second that you don't have to! :-) Just cause the guy dies from a .22 (eventually) does not mean that shooting him saved his intended victim. Many people survive being shot, so stopping him is not necessarily lethal.

I can stop you, without fail, with a non-lethal blow across your gut, using a ball bat. So forget about merely looking at "who died, from what" studies. The bad guy's death does not show you if he was STOPPED (in time to save his would-be victim).
Well said.


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thanks, normally all I get is static from people who don't know much. :-)
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What does it matter if you can simply stop all attackers with the blistering speed of draw?

Rapidly executed, well placed shots are key to stopping threats.
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What does it matter if you can simply stop all attackers with the blistering speed of draw?

Rapidly executed, well placed shots are key to stopping threats.


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thanks, normally all I get is static from people who don't know much. :-)
and just whose fault is that?

are you making assumptions that the other members don't know what they are talking about?

sorry to say, but i feel you're victim of your own self imagined importance.

you need to wake up and venture into the real world every so often.
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It certainly aint MY fault if they don't know much and insist upon displaying that shortcoming on forums.

why do you feel driven to LIE about what I said, hmm? I did not say anything about stopping ALL attackers just by showing a gun, but I've stopped 5 of them (1 each time) that way, and almost any cop will say the same thing. People don't want to get shot, cause it means prison or the cemetery.
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I did not say anything about stopping ALL attackers just by showing a gun, but I've stopped 5 of them (1 each time) that way...
I assume you are military or law enforcement? Otherwise, you should consider moving to a safer neighborhood.


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Mall ninjas, arm chair warriors, and trolls must be having some kind of convention on the forums these past few days. Some of the ideologies I've been coming across lately here are comical at best. Thank god for the rational, educated, and sane members we have here. " A non lethal blow across the gut with a baseball bat".....yawn.
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I assume you are military or law enforcement? Otherwise, you should consider moving to a safer neighborhood.


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not all of us grew up pampered pretty boys like you, mccool.

some were raised hard in the hood (for me specifically, it was the hood of a ford pinto...sort of peach color with brown/orange pin stripes).

i made it out, and yeah i did a few things....but that was the "old me".....


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