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Old 12-18-2012, 10:59 PM   #21
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Why do you keep re-chambering? I always have a round in the chamber unless I go to the range to shoot.
Me too, the only time I unload it is for cleaning, which I sometimes do even tho I haven't been shooting and I rotate my rounds out.
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does this happen from putting the round into the magazine and letting the action chamber the round?

I have the same round in the chamber every time, but being a beretta, the chamber is easy to access, and I just manually feed the round that's going to be in the chamber, send the slide forward, then insert the mag.

I find this easier than inserting a full capacity magazine, chambering a round, then removing the magazine and loading another round.
Don't know about your Beretta, but with many semiautos this is not a good idea. With this method the extractor is forced to "jump" the case rim rather than the case being brought up and under the extractor during chambering, resulting in more stress on the extractor and possible failure.
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Sounds like a lot of ya'll need to shoot more

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I had a Speer gold dot come apart last night. I thought it looked funny and I kind of pulled it some and it came apart.

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Don't know about your Beretta, but with many semiautos this is not a good idea. With this method the extractor is forced to "jump" the case rim rather than the case being brought up and under the extractor during chambering, resulting in more stress on the extractor and possible failure.
Hadn't thought about how the chambering method tends to bring the round up and slide into the extractor. but...doesn't the extractor "jump" the case when it's ejected anyway? Plus, you're not stressing the metal, just the spring that supplies the tension on the extractor...and its not like you're pulling the extractor out further than normal...


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Yup, sure do! send me some ammo and I'll be glad to go shoot more often! or, if shipping is too much, you can just send me some cash instead, and I'll use it to go buy ammo so I can go to the range more often!
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Chamber it and quit fiddling with it. No press checks, no swapping ammo.

I shoot my carry gun 2-3 times a year. So that round gets chambered 2-3 times, then it gets sent downrange.

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Hadn't thought about how the chambering method tends to bring the round up and slide into the extractor. but...doesn't the extractor "jump" the case when it's ejected anyway? Plus, you're not stressing the metal, just the spring that supplies the tension on the extractor...and its not like you're pulling the extractor out further than normal...





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The ejector tends to push the case somewhat sideways, "peeling" the case from under the extractor rather than the extractor having to jump the case rim.

The extractor isn't designed to be forced over the case rim..it's supposed to pull the spend cartridge from the chamber and the ejector then applies the force to pivot the case from the extractor. Forcing the extractor over the case rim places stress on all the parts and accelerates wear on the extractor it was not designed to be exposed to.

As I said, many manufacturers specifically instruct not to chamber a round in the method you described, for the reasons I, perhaps poorly, detailed above.
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Don't know about your Beretta, but with many semiautos this is not a good idea. With this method the extractor is forced to "jump" the case rim rather than the case being brought up and under the extractor during chambering, resulting in more stress on the extractor and possible failure.
its safe to do on pistols with external extractors. on the beretta 92 it is designed specificly to be able to drop single rounds into the chamber and close the slide. internal extractors like on springfield and colt 1911 you should never do this because it can damage the extractor.
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its safe to do on pistols with external extractors. on the beretta 92 it is designed specificly to be able to drop single rounds into the chamber and close the slide. internal extractors like on springfield and colt 1911 you should never do this because it can damage the extractor.
that's what I was thinking as well. After all, a "feature" of the Beretta design, is that you can load a single round at a time and still fire the weapon. They even listed it as a purposeful design feature of why the top of the slide is open the way it is, unlike a 1911 slide that fully covers the barrel. The way I read it was "the Beretta 92 does not have a mag safety so that if you ever lose or damage the magazine, you can still load and fire the weapon, one round at a time"
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I have the same round in the chamber every time, but being a beretta, the chamber is easy to access, and I just manually feed the round that's going to be in the chamber, send the slide forward, then insert the mag.

I find this easier than inserting a full capacity magazine, chambering a round, then removing the magazine and loading another round.
This is a really bad idea. The extractor is designed so the extractor groove slips under the hook of the extractor when the round comes up and aout of the magazine. It is NOT designed to be forced around the rim. You WILL eventually break the extractor.
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