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Old 12-13-2011, 01:38 PM   #1
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Me and a coworker were talking and he started asking me about when to use deadly force. He asked if id use deadly force if i was attacked by someone with a knife, to which i said yes. Its a deadly weapon and the attacker means me bodily harm or death. He then asked me would i do the same if attacked by someone armed with something other than a deadly weapon like a crowbar. I told him if i felt like that person was intent on doing me bodily harm i would do what id need to protect myself and family. Any thoughts, am i right or what?
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Old 12-13-2011, 01:42 PM   #2
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Me and a coworker were talking and he started asking me about when to use deadly force. He asked if id use deadly force if i was attacked by someone with a knife, to which i said yes. Its a deadly weapon and the attacker means me bodily harm or death. He then asked me would i do the same if attacked by someone armed with something other than a deadly weapon like a crowbar. I told him if i felt like that person was intent on doing me bodily harm i would do what id need to protect myself and family. Any thoughts, am i right or what?
Only in the heat of battle can it be answered. If he had a knife he is gone.
If he had a crowbar ... he will be wounded. But then again, only in the heat
of battle can it truly be answered.
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A crowbar? That's as lethal as a knife w/ a greater reach. My vote "shoot em".
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Are you in fear for your life? Then, yes deadly force is justifiable. Now, if an unarmed attacker is coming at you? Arguable...
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Any kind of weapon is most likely lethal. It would only take a crowbar to connect with your skull once and it's lights out for good.

No weapon can be lethal depending upon your age and physical stature.

If I'm in fear of my life or the life of another, I darn well hope I pull the trigger.
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How is a crowbar NOT a deadly weapon??? Crowbar, fork, knife, screwdriver, rock, car, whatever, it doesn't take much effort to do serious harm with almost any inanimate instrument. Its' up to you to decide if your safety is in danger and in a heated confrontation, unless your opponent is wielding a pillow, I'd say you are...whether to shoot or not is an entirely different thought...and thread...I hope
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Are you in fear for your life? Then, yes deadly force is justifiable. Now, if an unarmed attacker is coming at you? Arguable...
Thats the point i made to him. He also asked what if your attacker has a pencil. I said wtf dude, you are 37 and youre asking me this. I didnt justify him with an answer.
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A crow bar can be very deadly, and can cause serious harm. One single solid whack to the head may make you a vegetable for life.

Just about ANY object can be a deadly weapon. I'm not too sure about the phone in my hand, but I'm sure with a little creativity one could figure it out.

We had a saying in MCMAP (Marine Corps Marital Arts Program) one mind, any weapon.

I'm fully confident that unless I'm disarmed or it gets broken, I can kill a man with a plastic spoon. I'm not trying to claim I'm a bad ass, really I'm more of an angry pacifist, but the training is there.

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Counter the pencil with a giant eraser...
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A marshmallow. Can you kill with a marshmallow... that's the big question.
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