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308Wins 07-07-2013 01:43 AM

Pros vs cons...
 
Of carrying a concealed weapon with one in the chamber?
And what about a safety? What do you think about having a safety at all, not keeping one in the chamber without a safety?
Thanks

RevJammer 07-07-2013 02:08 AM

This is just my opinion.... no offense is meant to anyone.

For years I wouldn't have a pistol without an exposed hammer and a manual safety. Then one day I realized (maybe I read it somewhere) that my revolvers don't have a safety.

If you follow the basic rules of safe gun handling, carrying with no safety and one in the chamber should be a safe way to carry.

If you do not follow the basic rules of gun safety, no amount of "mechanical" safeties will keep you from doing something... dangerous. YMMV

Sorry, after re-reading the OP and my response, I realized I didn't answer the OP's question.

If I need my firearm in a "self-defense" or "emergency" situation, the chances are I won't have time to chamber a round.

The Pros of carrying one in the chamber is speed and response. I don't see any cons, if you practice safe gun handling.


RJ

Vikingdad 07-07-2013 02:12 AM

The only fail-safe safety is your brain connected to your index finger. Carry one chambered. Use a holster that protects the trigger.

SSGSF 07-07-2013 02:12 AM

If you are going to carry a gun. And not have a round in the chamber, then you mite as well carry a stick. You will not have time to chamber a round when seconds count. I carry in condition one or zero. Depending on my gun.

towboater 07-07-2013 03:00 AM

One in the chamber. No safety except for the long double action pull. My carry guns have a hammer block safety. The trigger has to be completely pulled to the rear before the hammer can strike the firing pin.

indy36 07-07-2013 03:15 AM

One in the pipe, for me, ALWAYS. Sometimes it's cocked and locked and other times it's a Glock or Steyr. Doesn't matter to me which, I follow one rule, the gun must be ready to use. You're not supposed to pull it unless life is in danger so following that it's a no-brainer, the gun is ready to use. Whom is to say if you'll have time to rack it or even have the use of both hands. I'm not chancing it. In IDPA you draw from a holster and engage targets. There is no, 'excuse me, if you could just give me a minute to prepare my firearm'. It's draw and go. If you don't feel comfortable doing that then start shooting IDPA. Start wearing the gun around your house, in ready condition. Get comfortable carrying a loaded gun. It will happen. You'll be better for it.

TekGreg 07-07-2013 03:17 AM

While sitting around watching TV, at least twice a week, unload your gun and practice drawing from cover (Yes, wear your gun cover!), finger off the trigger, then go to shooting (move finger to trigger) half the time. That means safety off, fire, safety on, reholster. Pick an event on TV that is a shoot or no shoot event: replay of the last game play, shoot! Kid in the commercial, don't shoot! then draw until your hand goes numb or one of your fingers bleeds. Be honest if you trip the trigger while drawing - that was an ND that your training caused you to avoid. Make sure the trigger isn't contacted anywhere in the draw stroke.

Three months of this will have your muscle memory so conditioned and so familiar with your self defense tool that you might decide that safeties are best left to your brain. If not, you'll be able to engage and disengage them without thinking.

Also remember, slow is smooth. smooth is fast. Don't try for speed right out of the gate. Just be very smooth and speed will come. Also incorporate a reload or tap/rack/bang drill every fifth or sixth draw. You will be amazed how fast you will do it without thinking! :D :cool:

308Wins 07-07-2013 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indy36
One in the pipe, for me, ALWAYS. Sometimes it's cocked and locked and other times it's a Glock or Steyr. Doesn't matter to me which, I follow one rule, the gun must be ready to use. You're not supposed to pull it unless life is in danger so following that it's a no-brainer, the gun is ready to use. Whom is to say if you'll have time to rack it or even have the use of both hands. I'm not chancing it. In IDPA you draw from a holster and engage targets. There is no, 'excuse me, if you could just give me a minute to prepare my firearm'. It's draw and go. If you don't feel comfortable doing that then start shooting IDPA. Start wearing the gun around your house, in ready condition. Get comfortable carrying a loaded gun. It will happen. You'll be better for it.

I'm not sure what "IDPA" means

winds-of-change 07-07-2013 05:26 AM

Here is another thread discussing something very similar.

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f17/why-carry-without-bullet-chamber-93169/

DrumJunkie 07-07-2013 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 308Wins (Post 1297298)
I'm not sure what "IDPA" means

http://www.idpa.com/


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