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melchloren 02-21-2008 08:15 PM

private transfer of a handgun
 
I live in NC and I know I can transfer private ownership of a handgun. What my question is do I need to retain a copy of the permit to purchase and do I need any other documentation or info for selling to a private individual? I've tried looking but I can not narrow it down. What I need to do so that I stay out of trouble?

spittinfire 02-21-2008 08:22 PM

I live in NC as well and I know you want to keep record of all that. I would suggest going to a local gun shop and asking them. You might even have them "sell" it for you and slip them $25 or something. Then the gun is completely released from you and any legwork involved, should the gun be used for something illegal, falls back on them. They have to store the records and provide all the information.

Samhain 02-21-2008 08:49 PM

Go to a gun shop. In CT they charge $50 to transfer ownership.
But that way it is in the computers that you no longer own that firearm.

Work the transfer price into the selling price.

Flint Rock 02-23-2008 01:56 PM

Here in Georgia the law says I can, as an individual, sell a gun to anyone who is not; drunk or of apparent mental defect. That's nice, but I would not sell to anyone directly. I would want a dealer between me and the end buyer. If someone does something stupid with a gun, the first question that seems to get asked is "where did he get the gun?" I don't want to be the answer to that question.

DoubleAction 03-14-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint Rock (Post 17192)
Here in Georgia the law says I can, as an individual, sell a gun to anyone who is not; drunk or of apparent mental defect. That's nice, but I would not sell to anyone directly. I would want a dealer between me and the end buyer. If someone does something stupid with a gun, the first question that seems to get asked is "where did he get the gun?" I don't want to be the answer to that question.

I live in Georgia as well; I always make out Letters Of Transfer when trading, selling, or buying a gun with an individual. Another is, I only conduct this kind of business with those I know and trust very well. When in doubt, it is always best, as you mentioned, to go through a FFL Dealer.

c3shooter 04-20-2008 05:00 AM

FEDERAL law permits you to sell a firearm to a resident of your own state face-to-face, so long as you do not know this to be a person that is prohibited from owning that gun (minor, convicted felon, illegal alien, etc) State laws vary- NC is pretty laid back. Here in VA, as in most southern states, no state registration, etc. But unless you KNOW the buyer, would consider having a dealer make the sale. Or just put an ad in paper that says "have guns for sale, please come break into house". :)

banjobobb 06-05-2008 10:43 PM

I live in N.C. also and recently sold a firearm to a co-worker. I went to the State Attorney Generals website. There is info there about legal transfer.
I received the permit to purchase from the lady and gave the lady a bill of sale with all pertinent info including serial number. I made a copy of the bill of sale for myself to keep with the purchase permit I received from her. As far as I can tell from the Attny Gen.'s info, that is all that you need to keep.
Bob

RL357Mag 06-06-2008 12:29 AM

I recently was amazed to learn that other states don't require an FFL transfer like in NY. I hate NY laws and NY Liberal Politicians, but they got this one right IMO. With an FFL transfer the serial number of the gun is now transferred to the new owner - that seems important to me - especially these days where an FBI trace would show my name as the original purchaser if a transfer isn't done.

robocop10mm 06-06-2008 04:32 PM

FFL intermediary to sell my handgun to a friend? WTF? A simple handwritten bill of sale listing the Driver's License number of the purchaser is all I have ever required. In fact, I recently sold ALL my handguns to various individuals who each presented their Driver's Licenses. And no, Mr ATF Agent, I did not get photostatic copies of their licenses as I do not own a photo copier. What, the name does not match the DL number? OMG! That must have been a forgery! Man-o-man, they can make some really good forgeries these days! No, I did not check them through NCIC. That would be an illegal abuse of my authority and a strictly prohibited use of the national computer access given to me.

I think I will sell all my long guns tomorrow.

RL357Mag 06-07-2008 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by robocop10mm (Post 26964)
FFL intermediary to sell my handgun to a friend? WTF? A simple handwritten bill of sale listing the Driver's License number of the purchaser is all I have ever required. In fact, I recently sold ALL my handguns to various individuals who each presented their Driver's Licenses. And no, Mr ATF Agent, I did not get photostatic copies of their licenses as I do not own a photo copier. What, the name does not match the DL number? OMG! That must have been a forgery! Man-o-man, they can make some really good forgeries these days! No, I did not check them through NCIC. That would be an illegal abuse of my authority and a strictly prohibited use of the national computer access given to me.

I think I will sell all my long guns tomorrow.


Not everyone here is a cop, and consequently would not receive "the benefit of the doubt" or even a presumption of innocence if a gun that is registered in their name is found at a crime scene or on some scumbags' person when he is arrested. If the ATF already knows of your original purchase, then what is the problem with creating a new paper trail to the person you are selling it to? For Christ's sake if someone at a range can be arrested and jailed because his semi-auto acted like a machine gun, who in their right mind would want to take a chance today?


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