[doctherock]

Originally Posted by ajs

Does anyone know if you can get arrested or harassed for printing your gun in Michigan? or any state for that matter....

havent heard of printing. What are we talking about here?

[Jpyle]

Originally Posted by doctherock

havent heard of printing. What are we talking about here?

Intentional or unintentional lack of proper concealment of a weapon that can be construed as brandishing in certain jurisdictions.

Brandishing" a firearm or deadly weapon is the act of drawing or exhibiting a firearm or weapon in a rude or threatening manner. Simply showing a firearm requires a 30 day minimum jail sentence. If the brandishing occurs in a public place with a revolver or concealable handgun, the charge is a misdemeanor with a minimum of 90 days in jail. If this conduct occurs in the presence of a police officer, the punishment can include prison time, in the worst case scenario, the police have guns and are trained to use deadly force against you. excerpted Orange County, CA

[doctherock]

Originally Posted by Jpyle

Intentional or unintentional lack of proper concealment of a weapon that can be construed as brandishing in certain jurisdictions.

Brandishing" a firearm or deadly weapon is the act of drawing or exhibiting a firearm or weapon in a rude or threatening manner. Simply showing a firearm requires a 30 day minimum jail sentence. If the brandishing occurs in a public place with a revolver or concealable handgun, the charge is a misdemeanor with a minimum of 90 days in jail. If this conduct occurs in the presence of a police officer, the punishment can include prison time, in the worst case scenario, the police have guns and are trained to use deadly force against you. excerpted Orange County, CA

Thank you for clarifying that for me. Never heard that terminology before.

[Viking]

Originally Posted by doctherock

Thank you for clarifying that for me. Never heard that terminology before.

Do you have a conceal carry license? If so your instructor should have mentioned this issue. If you were carrying concealed say like in Portland or other large somewhat anti-gun towns and your weapon was showing a raised outline of the grip bulge on a jacket a LEO would more than likely confront you, perhaps in an unpleasent way. Out of site, out of mind (of people who may not like guns in civilians hands) and you'll stay out of trouble. Common sense at it's best.

[NGIB]

Originally Posted by Mutabam

I really don't mean to offend anybody, but printing is not an issue in my state or in most, if not all states, to the best of my knowledge. I carry daily and probably print sometimes. I frequently carry around l.e. officers and have never been asked about my concealed carry.

Brandishing is prohibited in most states. Printing is not brandishing, to the best of my knowledge, in any state.

Respectfully, I'd like to see the verbiage in any state's law that says that printing is contrary to that state's law.

The states which do not allow open carry at all can get cranky with printing. Florida is one of those states and depending on the LEO, printing can be a bad thing. My daughter lives in FL and I'm always very careful to conceal completely when I'm there. Technically, if you're printing - the gun is not concealed...

[canebrake]

Originally Posted by NGIB

The states which do not allow open carry at all can get cranky with printing. Florida is one of those states and depending on the LEO, printing can be a bad thing. My daughter lives in FL and I'm always very careful to conceal completely when I'm there. Technically, if you're printing - the gun is not concealed...

Thank you Dave!

What part of "Concealed Carry" don't you guys understand?

Printing while concealed carrying is like being a little bit pregnant! You either are, or are not.

[stalkingbear]

It don't matter what you say now, we're not going to pay the slightest attention to you after attacking a WELL respected member and moderator. You're starting out the wrong way and will never have any credibility on this forum if you continue along this course. If I was you I'd tread VERY carefully and stay in the glock section. It seems you're an expert in all states' laws. Welcome to the ignore bin.

Originally Posted by Glock30Owner

Let me be nice and say that this is a steaming pile of BS.

Michigan is a traditional Open Carry state. This means that you don't even need a license to openly carry a firearm.

You need to check the laws yourself to see where you can carry and how you can carry. IIRC, there are rules for CC that don't apply to OC in MI, and vice versa.

And for anyone else reading this thread, there is no law on any state's statutes that prohibits your firearm from printing (if you claim it does, post a link to the statute).

That said, there are states (like Texas) that make it a criminal offense to intentionally not conceal your firearm. Laws of this nature can only be found in states that do not allow OC, and there are only 6 (Arkansas, Florida, New York, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas). No carry is permitted in Illinois, period (even fanny packers there have been convicted).

[DarinCraft]

Originally Posted by Glock30Owner

Let me be nice and say I love my mom! [mod edit]

Michigan is a traditional Open Carry state. This means that you don't even need a license to openly carry a firearm.

You need to check the laws yourself to see where you can carry and how you can carry. IIRC, there are rules for CC that don't apply to OC in MI, and vice versa.

And for anyone else reading this thread, there is no law on any state's statutes that prohibits your firearm from printing (if you claim it does, post a link to the statute).

That said, there are states (like Texas) that make it a criminal offense to intentionally not conceal your firearm. Laws of this nature can only be found in states that do not allow OC, and there are only 6 (Arkansas, Florida, New York, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas). No carry is permitted in Illinois, period (even fanny packers there have been convicted).

You are such a pile of trash. What legal experience do you have from there on your soapbox? Me? I'm a retired cop and if you are "printing" you are not concealed. As far as me linking the laws that prove this to you? You can pound sand, I've already wasted too much of my time by simply responding to you.

Go back to mall ninja quarterly and where you can push junior high kids around, you friggin' douche.

[NGIB]

This is one thread that Robo needs to visit and kill. As a Texas LEO, he can tell us directly if printing is cause for concern in states that do not support open carry...

[skullcrusher]

Darin put his thoughts on it, so that is one LEO.

I agree NGIB that robo needs to stop in. It would be better if there were reply after reply from all the LEOs here, just a thought. Think about it, if all the next few threads there from robo, scubie, Glass, Brad (new SM)--just off the top of my head. I know there are others.