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Old 07-21-2011, 08:18 PM   #21
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18 months of mandatory military service for every American Citizen at age 18.
Wallah... everyone is trained.
...Although the going trend is to abolish mandatory conscription like France and Germany have done fairly recently.


Here's another idea. Add firearm safety training as a class in public highschools... everyone gets trained.
Although I think its a great idea, it does go against the constitution and shouldnt be allowed.
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Which part is against the constitution?
The government can draft & conscript the citizens to military service, but only does volunteers now by "choice" since after Vietnam.

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Conscripts throughout history have never made good troops and just serve to destroy the moral of the proffessional soldier when there is no real pressing national need for troops serving just to fill a uniform as a drafted bullet catcher.

I think mandatory peacetime draft a poor idea at best. So did the founding fathers which is why thry wrote the 2A the way they did. The 2A is designed in such a way that there will be a vast pool of civilians with their own private firearms and a knowledge of marksmanship readily available in time of national need.

What we DO need is abolishment of most of the prohibitions on automatic firearms, and abolishment of individual states and cities abilities to disenfranchise many citizens of their 2A rights.

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Conscripts throughout history have never made good troops and just serve to destroy the moral of the proffessional soldier when there is no real pressing national need for troops serving just to fill a uniform as a drafted bullet catcher.

I think mandatory peacetime draft a poor idea at best. So did the founding fathers which is why thry wrote the 2A the way they did. The 2A is designed in such a way that there will be a vast pool of civilians with their own private firearms and a knowledge of marksmanship readily available in time of national need.

What we DO need is abolishment of most of the prohibitions on automatic firearms, and abolishment of individual states and cities abilities to disenfranchise many citizens of their 2A rights.
Not just yes, but He!! yes!
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Conscripts throughout history have never made good troops and just serve to destroy the moral of the proffessional soldier when there is no real pressing national need for troops serving just to fill a uniform as a drafted bullet catcher.

I think mandatory peacetime draft a poor idea at best. So did the founding fathers which is why thry wrote the 2A the way they did. The 2A is designed in such a way that there will be a vast pool of civilians with their own private firearms and a knowledge of marksmanship readily available in time of national need.

What we DO need is abolishment of most of the prohibitions on automatic firearms, and abolishment of individual states and cities abilities to disenfranchise many citizens of their 2A rights.
VERY well said. And I will also have to add a HELL YES to the last part.
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The idea floated of an 18 month service for all is not to create "good troops", but to give training and standardization to all. It would help bring the country together.

The volunteer and professional soldier is vastly superior to an unmotivated conscript, but it's the unmotivated conscript type person that could use some toughening up, some wider perspective and bring the eletist wealthy people down a couple notches to have the same service requirements too. I can go on and on about what a good to society the 18 months or even just 12 months or whatever would do to various social groups that currently aren't exposed.

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I was looking at a reciprocity map and SC seems to have alienated a lot of southern states. We share a long border and it seems strange that my GA permit is good throughout the south except there. Not sure it was specifically training but that was probably an issue...
It's cause SC is mad that the Gamecocks suck...
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I'd also add that with Vietnam generation heading into retirement and the WWII generation passing on, we're on a track to soon having less than 1% of our population with military experience. That's a vastly different percentage than most of our American history.

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I'd also add that with Vietnam generation heading into retirement and the WWII generation passing on, we're on a track to soon having less than 1% of our population with military experience. That's a vastly different percentage than most of our American history.
Oh wow, never thought of it that way. Excellent observation.

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