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austin125 12-11-2012 03:32 PM

Open carry in ohio
 
Okay so I have my ccw permit for the state of Ohio, but I'm also interested in open carrying occasionally. I'm just trying to find out the details. I've done some research and called local police but still can't get the answers or info I'm looking for. Anybody live in Ohio and open carry?

rjd3282 12-11-2012 05:55 PM

Open carry in Ohio is legal. No permit required to open carry.

M1Anut 12-11-2012 06:02 PM

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BeyondTheBox 12-11-2012 07:20 PM

I belive that federal law allows privately owned businesses of any state the right to deny you service because of it. I've kicked people out off my store for both open and concealed, which wasn't well enough concealed.

One was a US Marshall. He showed me a business card but no badge. I told him he could conceal it or take to car. He took to car and came back.

Some podunk came in with pocket carry and grip sticking half way out. Unacceptable to me so I told him to tuck it or leave. He tried to explain the convenience and how hard it is to pull whole gun out when completely in pocket and I almost went off on him, but I remained professional, reiterated store policy and he left.

I live in NW Oregon, liberal central, my business will not suffer no matter how much I support gun ownership and carrying. Many businesses in bigger cities will feel this way. I've open carried in several local stores in my small town and it seems commonly accepted, but I'm sure if I went to Portland it would be a completely different story.

RoGrrr 12-16-2012 02:35 PM

Austin
I live in Ohio and I carry discretely in Ohio almost all the time, as I don't usually tuck my shirt over my custom leather IWB 1911 at 2 Oclock. Only the grip is exposed and with my shirts that pull up a bit, they tend to "drape over" the biggest part of the gun. And most people don't notice since they aren't looking for a gun. I'm skinny so I can carry a full size 1911 and not print. Case in point, I have been stopping at my cell fone store to dsicuss issues with my IPhone. I usually deal with the same saleslady. Only after the 4th visit with her did she finally notice my gun. He comment was, "Wow, I only just noticed you have your CCW!" I explained that I carry 100% and shrugged it off. (we spent the next half hour talking about guns and shooting since the store was empty. She's MY kind of woman....)
A few will notice and ask me about it and I always take time to explain in words anyone (except liberals) can understand and accept. I liken it to their car insurance, have it but don't want to use it....
There are times I wear an untucked shirt or light jacket. I dislike winter since I have to bundle up to stay warm, making it hard to access the gun if I need it.
I carry into my bank all the time, movie theaters, grocery stores, gas stations and don't worry if I get "made". Well, I carry 100% of the time, even in my home bcuz my holster makes it very comfortable.
I travel to Indiana every weekend, too, and carry the same way there, since their law says thet allow me to carry based on the Ohio law. At least that's the way I interpreted what I read about their law.

BOX, why would you insult people by running them out of your place of business ??!? I can understand the punk-pocket-carrier but the Marshall and others ?

BeyondTheBox 12-16-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RoGrrr (Post 1053612)
Austin
I live in Ohio and I carry discretely in Ohio almost all the time, as I don't usually tuck my shirt over my custom leather IWB 1911 at 2 Oclock. Only the grip is exposed and with my shirts that pull up a bit, they tend to "drape over" the biggest part of the gun. And most people don't notice since they aren't looking for a gun. I'm skinny so I can carry a full size 1911 and not print. Case in point, I have been stopping at my cell fone store to dsicuss issues with my IPhone. I usually deal with the same saleslady. Only after the 4th visit with her did she finally notice my gun. He comment was, "Wow, I only just noticed you have your CCW!" I explained that I carry 100% and shrugged it off. (we spent the next half hour talking about guns and shooting since the store was empty. She's MY kind of woman....)
A few will notice and ask me about it and I always take time to explain in words anyone (except liberals) can understand and accept. I liken it to their car insurance, have it but don't want to use it....
There are times I wear an untucked shirt or light jacket. I dislike winter since I have to bundle up to stay warm, making it hard to access the gun if I need it.
I carry into my bank all the time, movie theaters, grocery stores, gas stations and don't worry if I get "made". Well, I carry 100% of the time, even in my home bcuz my holster makes it very comfortable.
I travel to Indiana every weekend, too, and carry the same way there, since their law says thet allow me to carry based on the Ohio law. At least that's the way I interpreted what I read about their law.

BOX, why would you insult people by running them out of your place of business ??!? I can understand the punk-pocket-carrier but the Marshall and others ?

No insult, I tell them store policy, make them aware that I am a licensed carrier myself and understand but it's not allowed. Just as outlined with Marshall I tell them they can place the firearm securely in their vehicle or conceal it and come right back. This far the Marshall responded well and two others didn't come back.

I do it for other customers who aren't use to seeing guns exposed in every day shopping situation. Their reactions have been clear. They pull children close and rush through transaction of simply leave. I won't have that and I wouldn't expect anyone else to. Nothing wrong with what I do at all.

RoGrrr 12-16-2012 09:25 PM

BOX
Being one of us SHEEPDOGS (at least I'm assuming you would come to the defense of someone who is in dire straits) why do you choose to disarm someone who is one of our brothers, rather than to simply "I didn't see/notice" that someone is legally armed ?
It sounds to me like you have this barney fife complex that makes you feel SO GOOD bcuz you followed that stupid liberal philosophy of "nobody should have a gun" so you push them out the door.
I would simply suggest, in a whisper to the person who let one slip, "you might consider fixing your ZIPPER". or something like that. Why dig out your imaginary badge of honor that might let someone get killed ? Do you get a bonus for everyone you run ?
Long story short, YES, it IS an insult to run them out, especially if they are a USMarshall.

If you ever have the chance to sit in on the 1-day seminar given by LTC USA (RET) Dave Grossman entitled "THE BULLETPROOF MIND" do so and then during a break, talk with Dave about your action to run the LTC's out of your store. He's more eloquent than I ever could be.

BeyondTheBox 12-16-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RoGrrr (Post 1054021)
BOX
Being one of us SHEEPDOGS (at least I'm assuming you would come to the defense of someone who is in dire straits) why do you choose to disarm someone who is one of our brothers, rather than to simply "I didn't see/notice" that someone is legally armed ?
It sounds to me like you have this barney fife complex that makes you feel SO GOOD bcuz you followed that stupid liberal philosophy of "nobody should have a gun" so you push them out the door.
I would simply suggest, in a whisper to the person who let one slip, "you might consider fixing your ZIPPER". or something like that. Why dig out your imaginary badge of honor that might let someone get killed ? Do you get a bonus for everyone you run ?
Long story short, YES, it IS an insult to run them out, especially if they are a USMarshall.

If you ever have the chance to sit in on the 1-day seminar given by LTC USA (RET) Dave Grossman entitled "THE BULLETPROOF MIND" do so and then during a break, talk with Dave about your action to run the LTC's out of your store. He's more eloquent than I ever could be.

If you don't already understand you never will. Trust me it wasn't insulting or the Marshall wouldn't have come back to do business with me.

70cuda383 12-17-2012 03:57 PM

I see both sides of the equation. if you are a business owner, you are not guaranteed a paycheck for punching the clock and putting your 40 hours in. Your paycheck depends on customers giving you money in trade for merchandise that you have on the shelves, or performing whatever service it is that you do.

If a lawfully licensed conceal carry holder is so lazy with his CONCEALED weapon, that it can be seen by the business owner and every other customer in the place...and it starts scaring customers away because they're afraid of guns, guess what? you as the business owner are watching dollars walk out of your front door, and going across the street to your competition.

I don't see this as anything to do with a barney fife complex. If the gun was visible and the store owner saw it, you can bet that other customers saw it too. if the store owner just quietly says "hey you're showing" and the customer sees that the business owner "didn't do anything about it" then they may still walk right out the door. but if the business owner says 'hey man, go back outside, re-conceal or put it in the car' and other customers see the guy leave, then come back, they will probably assume that the guy put it in his car, and that there's no more weapons in the store.

at the end of the day, CONCEALED means CONCEALED. If the CCW holder took his obligation a little more seriously and made sure it was concealed, then this is a non-issue, because the other customers, and the business owner will not know that the CCW holder is carrying.


Again, this is not a barney fife complex, or an issue of putting down your fellow "brothers" for carrying a weapon, instead, it's an issue of the CCW holder being lazy and sloppy with his concealment. Why defend him? I've read another thread on here where someone's wife bumped into a man at a chick-fil-a and noticed he was carrying, and she said 'oh, you're carrying' The guy responded back with "100% of the time" and everyone here was calling HIM a "barney fife who thinks he's gods gift to society and needs to learn to respect the CCW and not walk around like a mall rent-a-cop who thinks he's SWAT"

70cuda383 12-17-2012 04:02 PM

Anyway, as an Ohio Resident, I am aware that we have open carry here in the state, but It's impossible (ok, just VERY time consuming) to research every municipality within the state...

Does anyone know of any cities in the state that have banned open carry? I know Columbus has some stricter gun laws...or at least did? I was under the impression that within the city limits of C-bus, that there was a city ordinance that required a 3-day waiting period to by a firearm...but outside the city you can walk in, pay (and pass FFL check), walk out.


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