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Old 03-17-2014, 05:38 AM   #21
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I don't know! How we carry is as opinionated as what we carry! I do know this, if I'm Mr bad guy, robbing a convenient store, bank or any other place of business, I'm taking "Mr Responsible citizens" that has a big 1911 strapped on his side for the world and me to see out first. Personally, I think CC holds more advantages or gives me a better chance to survive a threat than OC! To me, the element of surprise, far out weighs any advantages OC might have! OC Just puts a big bullseye on our backs! Why mark or flag priority targets for BG! Remember, similar to the way we train, they are going to take out obvious targets that poses the biggest threat to there agenda. Hunting, fishing and the 1805 Wild West is great for OC! But 2014 urban America? I'm not feeling it! Just my opinion!!


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you are more than welcome to provide any proof or facts, like any links that show that someone OCing is likely to be more of a target that someone else.

so far it's been discussed ad nauseam and so far no really credible proof has shown that to be true yet.
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Sometimes common sense is worth more than any stat sheet! Strictly my opinion as well!


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again, you are more than welcome to show some proof to support that statement.

and many could argue that the sight of someone OCing can prevent a criminal act from starting in the first place. but there in lies a problem, as this is strictly an opinion that can't be verified.

so far, IMO, there is not enough data or information to support either side of that debate at this time.
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I just know, what would be my priorities if I was robbing a business, eliminate any obvious threats that would stop or hinder my agenda! Particularly in a high stakes robbery, I can't imagine putting much value on human life if I was after millions, considering, all my freedom was largely hanging on my efficiency.
But who knows? They(BG) are nuts to start with.


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I just know, what would be my priorities if I was robbing a business, eliminate any obvious threats that would stop or hinder my agenda! Particularly in a high stakes robbery, I can't imagine putting much value on human life if I was after millions, considering, all my freedom was largely hanging on my efficiency.
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i think if we are going to throw common sense into play as you stated in a post before, that most of us are not going to be in the vicinity of a high stakes robbery worth millionsto begin with. more than likely if anything a crackhead trying to rob the local 7-11 is more likely to happen.

in a high stakes robbery where that would be millions of dollars, i would have to suspect that many people are going to be open carrying of firearms, such as pistols, rifles and shotguns. millions of dollars don't get moved with out armed guards. they open carry all the time. and if the amount of money is large enough, sometime even local LE is brought in to help. they open carry also.
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again, you are more than welcome to show some proof to support that statement.



and many could argue that the sight of someone OCing can prevent a criminal act from starting in the first place. but there in lies a problem, as this is strictly an opinion that can't be verified.



so far, IMO, there is not enough data or information to support either side of that debate at this time.

Oh I agree! I'm sure OC has discouraged many Crimes! But the big premeditated robberies? No way! I'm all but certain, that secure or eliminate any armed or threatening bystanders would be very high on the priority check list! Probably right after the security guard/cop!


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Oh I agree! I'm sure OC has discouraged many Crimes! But the big premeditated robberies? No way! I'm all but certain, that secure or eliminate any armed or threatening bystanders would be very high on the priority check list! Probably right after the security guard/cop!


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sorry, but this is going no where fast. i think you have been watching too many action movies and need to step into the real world.

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i think if we are going to throw common sense into play as you stated in a post before, that most of us are not going to be in the vicinity of a high stakes robbery worth millionsto begin with. more than likely if anything a crackhead trying to rob the local 7-11 is more likely to happen.



in a high stakes robbery where that would be millions of dollars, i would have to suspect that many people are going to be open carrying of firearms, such as pistols, rifles and shotguns. millions of dollars don't get moved with out armed guards. they open carry all the time. and if the amount of money is large enough, sometime even local LE is brought in to help. they open carry also.

Bank robberies happen daily! Casino robberies, armed vehicle robberies!
The smaller low stakes stuff(7-11) OC might be a viable option! Problem is, you never no when the money is collected from small money businesses! I'm just more comfortable with CC, but I live in a highly populated area, that makes no sense to hang a big cannon on my hip for the world to see! Not trying to get in a heated debate. Just voicing my opinion and reasons for my opinion! If OC works for you, that's so cool! A comfortable and Confident armed citizen is the kind I want for neighbors, matters not how or why you gathered that confidents!


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While I'm more comfortable with cc because of attention and element of surprise, I have a friend who has a hand that's pretty much cripple and oc only makes since for him unless he can lift his garments and draw with his one


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