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Poink88 03-30-2011 01:54 PM

OC vs CC...boundaries?
 
Dumb question for the folks that have both OC and CC in their State.

I am wondering where (if any) is the transition from CC to OC. Is there a gray area when either is not met?

Like;
- Can you be charged/cited if you print while you CC when there is also an OC?
- If you carry in a shoulder holster and only the end/last 2" barrel of your 8" revolver is peeking at the bottom of your jacket is that okay?
- Is there a minimum percentage of the gun that must show for it to be categorized as OC?
- etc.

Thanks.

Lindenwood 03-30-2011 02:14 PM

It depends a lot on state laws, but they are often differentiated by intent. If you intend to open carry, it must be deliberately in the open and not covered by any garmets. If you are attempting to conceal, it should not show at all. I believe there are some states that allow both, but will get you in trouble for printing / poorly concealing a weapon that was intended to be a concealed. Basically, they do not blur the line between "concealed" and "open:" if your jacket blows open, you are poorly concealing a weapon, rather than "temporarily" openly carrying. However, other states, AFAIK, do allow these lines to be blurred and won't cite you for accidentally printing.

NGIB 03-30-2011 02:39 PM

Here in GA we can do either if you have a permit so it's a moot point. My kids lived in Florida for years and it's CC only there and LEOs could get nasty even if you printed. We've had the FL printing discussion a few times here before.

Open means open and uncovered, concealed means completely concealed without even obvious printing...

winds-of-change 03-30-2011 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poink88 (Post 475748)
- If you carry in a shoulder holster and only the end/last 2" barrel of your 8" revolver is peeking at the bottom of your jacket is that okay?

As you all know, I am learning every day here and I ask a lot of questions. Here's one more question.............Isn't an 8" barrel a little large for conceal carry?

Poink88 03-30-2011 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winds-of-change (Post 475830)
As you all know, I am learning every day here and I ask a lot of questions. Here's one more question.............Isn't an 8" barrel a little large for conceal carry?

LOL, yes it is and in the scenario I am just trying to see if it is allowed (as OC and CC). Seems like you cannot flip-flop between the 2 though.

winds-of-change 03-30-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poink88 (Post 475841)
LOL, yes it is and in the scenario I am just trying to see if it is allowed (as OC and CC). Seems like you cannot flip-flop between the 2 though.

Haha, oh, I see. I was thinking...........WOW, he must be a very tall man!

Poink88 03-30-2011 04:01 PM

As the OP intro said... "Dumb question" since I am really clueless. :o

Jesse17 03-30-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poink88 (Post 475841)
Seems like you cannot flip-flop between the 2 though.

I think it would be more accurate to say you can flip flop, you just can't do both at the same time, and no one but you should see your transition from open to concealed or vice-versa.

NGIB 03-30-2011 04:26 PM

It really truly does depend on your state. As I said, here in GA either is fine if you have a permit. Many of us, me included, often carry lazy-concealed - especially if I'm in a hurry. I'll clip on a paddle holster and pull a shirt over it and it prints badly - but who cares...

Lindenwood 03-30-2011 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winds-of-change (Post 475830)
As you all know, I am learning every day here and I ask a lot of questions. Here's one more question.............Isn't an 8" barrel a little large for conceal carry?

I carried my 8" Raging Bull a bit, and will continue to do so once I get it back and if it turns out to be in good shape. :D


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