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Old 06-13-2010, 08:25 PM   #1
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Man Legally Carrying Gun Robbed at Gunpoint

By Melanie Stout

MILWAUKEE - A Milwaukee man found out the hard way that carrying a gun for protection doesn't always keep you safe. In fact, it may have made him a target.

The 34-year-old man legally owned a handgun and carried it out in the open in his holster for protection.

Neighbors say they knew he was always armed.

"It was kind of scary to just see him walking around all the time with that gun kind of just out in the open," said Shambria Mayham Autman. She lives near Teutonia and Good Hope and said they called him "The guy with the gun."

But it wasn't scary for at least one person who robbed "The guy with the gun" at gunpoint.

"I think he was trying to scare people off like, 'Yeah, don't mess with me,' kind of attitude, but it didn't work," Mayham Autman explained.

The president of Wisconsin Carry, Nik Clark, says 100's of thousands of people open carry and he's never heard of anything like this.

"So it really is a very unusual situation, very unique," Clark said.

The victim didn't want to go on camera but said he carried the gun because he had been jumped and held up at knife point in the past. He believes, in his case, open carry made him a target and he will no longer do it.

He said his case proves gun owners should have the right to carry concealed weapons.

Clark agrees. "By and large it is a significant deterrent, open carry is, but I think it really does make the point that Wisconsin should have concealed carry along with open carry so that people who live in a very high crime neighborhood where criminals aren't deterred by firearms would have the ability to conceal carry to protect themselves. The two really work hand in hand," Clark said.


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That is pretty bold to walk up to someone you can see is armed and threaten them. Maybe he snuck up on him and caught him off guard. If he can't unholster the thing it's useless.



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Situational Awareness!

Having a weapon doesn't mean crime is going to take a holiday, or that you have a "Protect Self/50 foot radius" charm. It doesn't do a damn bit of good if someone catches you not paying attention.

That's like having all the tea in the China, but being stranded in the desert with no water in site. Not going to do you a lot of good.

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Situational Awareness!

Having a weapon doesn't mean crime is going to take a holiday, or that you have a "Protect Self/50 foot radius" charm. It doesn't do a damn bit of good if someone catches you not paying attention.

That's like having all the tea in the China, but being stranded in the desert with no water in site. Not going to do you a lot of good.
x100 on that! If you don't know what is going on around you, you cannot protect yourself from it, doesn't matter what your carrying.
I can't really agree with the statement that this guy open carrying made him a target, it's possible but ...
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I've made the point that if someone is the only person OC'ing within the sight of a criminal, then that person becomes a target. He's lucky robbery was the only thing that happened. The bad guy could have easily walked up behind him and put one behind his ear. Dead OC guy and an extra gun for the bad guy. Now, if there are several persons OC'ing in the same area, the criminal would most likely vacate the area.

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x100 on that! If you don't know what is going on around you, you cannot protect yourself from it, doesn't matter what your carrying.
I can't really agree with the statement that this guy open carrying made him a target, it's possible but ...
Let's face it. There are nut cases out there who aren't afraid of anything.
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Crazy people are abundant in numbers. I'll probably never oc even if it was legal here out by myself. If it were an oc event with lots of folks involved I would.

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Most people are 3-4 seconds into a mugging before it starts to sink in.

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Most people are 3-4 seconds into a mugging before it starts to sink in.
Nah, I'm sunk well in after I hit them. Usually psyched up during the planning as well.
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I still contend that if you carry or have a firearm in the home for protection and you don't run scenarios and drill then you will not rise to the occasion in the event of an attack or home invasion, you will defer to the level of training you have received and practiced.

Awareness and training build confidence!! Key factors in self defense.



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