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 06-13-2010, 08:25 PM | #1 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rogers, AR Posts: 6,267 |  OC guy robbed at gunpoint
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Man Legally Carrying Gun Robbed at Gunpoint
By Melanie Stout
MILWAUKEE - A Milwaukee man found out the hard way that carrying a gun for protection doesn't always keep you safe. In fact, it may have made him a target.
The 34-year-old man legally owned a handgun and carried it out in the open in his holster for protection.
Neighbors say they knew he was always armed.
"It was kind of scary to just see him walking around all the time with that gun kind of just out in the open," said Shambria Mayham Autman. She lives near Teutonia and Good Hope and said they called him "The guy with the gun."
But it wasn't scary for at least one person who robbed "The guy with the gun" at gunpoint.
"I think he was trying to scare people off like, 'Yeah, don't mess with me,' kind of attitude, but it didn't work," Mayham Autman explained.
The president of Wisconsin Carry, Nik Clark, says 100's of thousands of people open carry and he's never heard of anything like this.
"So it really is a very unusual situation, very unique," Clark said.
The victim didn't want to go on camera but said he carried the gun because he had been jumped and held up at knife point in the past. He believes, in his case, open carry made him a target and he will no longer do it.
He said his case proves gun owners should have the right to carry concealed weapons.
Clark agrees. "By and large it is a significant deterrent, open carry is, but I think it really does make the point that Wisconsin should have concealed carry along with open carry so that people who live in a very high crime neighborhood where criminals aren't deterred by firearms would have the ability to conceal carry to protect themselves. The two really work hand in hand," Clark said.
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| 06-13-2010, 08:31 PM | #2 | mmmmm...... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Maiden, NC Posts: 9,583 |
That is pretty bold to walk up to someone you can see is armed and threaten them. Maybe he snuck up on him and caught him off guard. If he can't unholster the thing it's useless. __________________
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| 06-13-2010, 08:35 PM | #3 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
Situational Awareness! 
Having a weapon doesn't mean crime is going to take a holiday, or that you have a "Protect Self/50 foot radius" charm. It doesn't do a damn bit of good if someone catches you not paying attention. 
That's like having all the tea in the China, but being stranded in the desert with no water in site. Not going to do you a lot of good. __________________ "as for my Sword & Spear we will serve the throne, but NEVER that man who sits upon it" - Achilles - Warrior of Warriors
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| 06-13-2010, 09:10 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,602 |
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Originally Posted by Dillinger
Situational Awareness!
Having a weapon doesn't mean crime is going to take a holiday, or that you have a "Protect Self/50 foot radius" charm. It doesn't do a damn bit of good if someone catches you not paying attention.
That's like having all the tea in the China, but being stranded in the desert with no water in site. Not going to do you a lot of good. |
x100 on that! If you don't know what is going on around you, you cannot protect yourself from it, doesn't matter what your carrying.
I can't really agree with the statement that this guy open carrying made him a target, it's possible but ... __________________
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| 06-13-2010, 09:14 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ohio, Ohio Posts: 10,953 |
I've made the point that if someone is the only person OC'ing within the sight of a criminal, then that person becomes a target. He's lucky robbery was the only thing that happened. The bad guy could have easily walked up behind him and put one behind his ear. Dead OC guy and an extra gun for the bad guy. Now, if there are several persons OC'ing in the same area, the criminal would most likely vacate the area. __________________ From C3Shooter:
Skullcrusher, you are evil, sick, demented, twisted- and my hero!
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...without the Second, we cannot protect the rest!
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| 06-13-2010, 10:43 PM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Clifton, Colorado Posts: 1,472 |
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x100 on that! If you don't know what is going on around you, you cannot protect yourself from it, doesn't matter what your carrying.
I can't really agree with the statement that this guy open carrying made him a target, it's possible but ...
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Let's face it. There are nut cases out there who aren't afraid of anything. __________________
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| 06-13-2010, 11:42 PM | #7 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rogers, AR Posts: 6,267 |
Crazy people are abundant in numbers. I'll probably never oc even if it was legal here out by myself. If it were an oc event with lots of folks involved I would. | |
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| 06-14-2010, 12:32 AM | #8 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,367 Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
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Most people are 3-4 seconds into a mugging before it starts to sink in. __________________
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| 06-14-2010, 12:44 AM | #9 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rogers, AR Posts: 6,267 |
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Originally Posted by c3shooter
Most people are 3-4 seconds into a mugging before it starts to sink in.
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Nah, I'm sunk well in after I hit them. Usually psyched up during the planning as well.  | |
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| 06-14-2010, 12:59 AM | #10 | Ground Zero Ocean Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florence, Oregon Posts: 8,463 |
I still contend that if you carry or have a firearm in the home for protection and you don't run scenarios and drill then you will not rise to the occasion in the event of an attack or home invasion, you will defer to the level of training you have received and practiced.
Awareness and training build confidence!! Key factors in self defense. __________________ Molon Labe!
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Hey, any constitution that acknowledges the people have a right to own weapons so that they may defend themselves -- including from an out-of-control government -- is OK by me...bkt
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