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Old 08-24-2014, 07:46 PM   #21
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Being that this is a sick bozo, you should not trust anything he says.

So back to the point, the cartridge should be able to do the job, and should not be overpowered for the job.

Ergo it would make little sense to carry 44 rem mag revolvers for self defense against people in the city.

Similarly the 357 mag is also overpowered.

However the 40's, 10mm's, 45ACP, 9mm and 38 specials are all very similar and just fine for self defense for everything except bears.

But with bears you are back to the 44 mag class again.
You do realize that a 10 mm is as powerful as a 357 don't you? There is no way that a 38 special is similar to any of those other cartridges other than diameter. Do the math shoobee. I don't care if the guy is wearing a tutu if he speaks the truth. Hell I even agree with chainfire when he gets it right.
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You do realize that a 10 mm is as powerful as a 357 don't you? There is no way that a 38 special is similar to any of those other cartridges other than diameter. Do the math shoobee. I don't care if the guy is wearing a tutu if he speaks the truth. Hell I even agree with chainfire when he gets it right.
maybe he was trying to get some fashion tips rather than ballistics information!
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You guys have something against cross dressers?
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If someone starts their YouTube post with a shot of themselves cross dressing in ladies' underwear, then that speaks volumes.

Axxe is cool with it.

RJD is cool with it.

The ladies' underwear detracts from the credibility notion.

Which is indeed a consistent hypothesis when considering the 3 players who are cool with it.

Of course, if it was a woman starting her YouTube video cross dressing in men's underwear, then I would definitely be cool with that, and she would probably be ADDING to her firearms credibility.

Whatever floats your boat.

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I still carry a snubbie now & again. Mostly when I'm out on the Motorcycle and jacket pocket carry is the order of the day. Roving bands aren't a problem yet here in UT. Well humans anyway. Wildlife on the other hand...
Very valid points.

Most of my comparisons from within my own battery and what I carried most were between a S&W 442 Airweight, DAO revolver and a Glock 26 And while a 9mm and .38 may not be apples to apples, neither cartridge is a punishing round or a weakling.

I found the Glock more comfortable for IWB at the 4-5 o'clock position. 10 rounds gave me two times the capacity. I can carry a Glock 19 mag for a 15 round reload. An Airweight Hammerless .38 is not as easy to get fast accurate hits with. You can get there but it takes serious practice. I could usually get a new shooter making better hits with less ammo with the Glock than with the 442.

Muzzle flip and second shot times with good hits were considerably easier and faster with the auto. I found second shot or rapid fire control was harder with the revolver and new shooters has a harder time mastering the DA trigger. So, those were my measures for "shootability". I found with my KFrame when new shooters could use single action they did excellent. But that's not likely or advisable under stress.

Modern striker fired autos give a long but lighter trigger pull that offers the deliberate nature of a DA, along with the point and shoot characteristics, with no special manipulation of safety levers. Reloads are much less complicated, especially with snubby revolvers that usually have an ejector that is too short to fully clear shells from the cylinder. A lower bore axis and grip angle along with weight distribution or balance helps in recoil control. Also the energy distributed in cycling the action seems to change perceived recoil and mitigate muzzle rise.

I have friends who are "Revolver guys", and they are amazing with revolvers. That is why I didn't say revolvers don't have a place in SD. It is also why I have emphasized why an auto has advantages for ME. Axxe was right about there not being a "one size fits all answer".

Just my own interpretation of the experiences I have had and decision.

With regard to moving. Right now I'm in a pretty secure location. Nice quiet neighborhood in the woods with little to no violent crime. I do travel though, and I can't always pick where trouble will be or the nature it will take. I live where the Navy moves me. Pretty sure there are some folks in MO who didn't think it would be too rough in their neck of the woods.

Could I go back to an Airweight revolver? Sure, but there aren't any compelling reasons for ME to change, vs. just sticking with what I know. I'm not suggesting that anyone switch from a revolver based on my choices, just offering my decision points.
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If someone starts their YouTube post with a shot of themselves cross dressing in ladies' underwear, then that speaks volumes.

Axxe is cool with it.

RJD is cool with it.

The ladies' underwear detracts from the credibility notion.

Which is indeed a consistent hypothesis when considering the 3 players who are cool with it.

Of course, if it was a woman starting her YouTube video cross dressing in men's underwear, then I would definitely be cool with that, and she would probably be ADDING to her firearms credibility.

Whatever floats your boat.

what you do in the privacy of your own home is your business!

so yes i guess i am cool with it!

i was more focused on the information given than the fashion statement made. as i am married and have been for many years now, i have no idea what single men like yourself do in your free time. if you wish to be a crossdresser, that's none of anyone's business.
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If someone starts their YouTube post with a shot of themselves cross dressing in ladies' underwear, then that speaks volumes.

Axxe is cool with it.

RJD is cool with it.

The ladies' underwear detracts from the credibility notion.

Which is indeed a consistent hypothesis when considering the 3 players who are cool with it.

Of course, if it was a woman starting her YouTube video cross dressing in men's underwear, then I would definitely be cool with that, and she would probably be ADDING to her firearms credibility.

Whatever floats your boat.


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Sorry, could not get past the cross dressing underwear scene. This bozo is sick.
i find it disturbing that the bra was an exact fit...

acting like a bozo detracts from and minimizes your message regardless of how intelligent and well thought out your points are.
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"The myth of Over-penetration...", that's exactly what my wife said.

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You do realize that a 10 mm is as powerful as a 357 don't you? There is no way that a 38 special is similar to any of those other cartridges other than diameter. Do the math shoobee. I don't care if the guy is wearing a tutu if he speaks the truth. Hell I even agree with chainfire when he gets it right.
I guess I missed that post -

JK, Chain - I actually have agreed with you once or twice myself!
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