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Old 05-05-2012, 07:36 PM   #21
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The article didn't say anything about this guy causing a disturbance. So should the security guard be arrested for filing a false complaint?

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Old 05-05-2012, 07:51 PM   #22
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This is a public park under the jurisdiction of the city of Sugar Hill:

"According to a federal lawsuit, private security Officer Reid Hanna told Christopher Proescher that Sugar Hill city ordinance prohibited firearms in public parks."

The private security "officer" was wrong, and he got his back up because Mr. Proescher didn't show him the proper respect and was "rude." Baloney! This isn't cause to call the police and report a suspicious person. The security officer is an ignorant ass on a power trip (Barney Fife syndrome).

Once it was made clear that the issue was instigated over open carry in a public park, the police should have released Mr. Proescher and educated the security officer as to applicable Georgia law - if they indeed were schooled in it.

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I give rent a cops no time of day. Just walk by them like they don't even exist.

This open carry man is a victim and should be well compensated.

This guy did what we all rant and rave about everyday on this and other forums. And then he takes some lumps for standing his ground. I don't get it.

This is what happens when somebody walks the talk. Not just talk the talk. Easy to jump on a forum and say "nobody is gonna take my freedom" or 'from my cold dead hands"

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then it being a public park it looks like his lawsuit might be on solid ground. quite possibly the LEO themselves might not be up to date on the legality of open carry either if he was arrested and taken to jail.

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There's two sides to every story. Your right, i'm sure these officers were just driving around looking for situations they could escalate. I'm sure they wake up every morning thinking "how can I violate tCan today". What part of that news story led you to believe the responding leo's escalated it?
The fact that they arrested him. Being rude, disrespectful, difficult, and "evasive speaking" are not generally grounds for arrest. Sure, he didn't have to be rude, but if the cops wouldn't have been jerking him around, then he wouldn't have even had the opportunity to be rude would he?
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If stories are to be believed, the guy was walking around the pedestrian path (a fairly normal activity given that an exercise path exists at that park.) Other than his manner of dress, is there any evidence at all that he was 'trying to attract attention?'

I'd think that if one were actively trolling for a lawsuit, it would be much easier to attract attention by carrying a long arm in a public place, such as around the Georgia Capitol building.

Leonard Embody's (aka: Kwikrnu) actions come to mind, as well as Embody's stated intentions as to why he carried openly and where.

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The initial call to GCPD was released earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/v/IlUXUHgYn0g&ap=%2526fmt%3D18&fs=1

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If stories are to be believed, the guy was walking around the pedestrian path (a fairly normal activity given that an exercise path exists at that park.) Other than his manner of dress, is there any evidence at all that he was 'trying to attract attention?'

I'd think that if one were actively trolling for a lawsuit, it would be much easier to attract attention by carrying a long arm in a public place, such as around the Georgia Capitol building.

Leonard Embody's (aka: Kwikrnu) actions come to mind, as well as Embody's stated intentions as to why he carried openly and where.
Yeah, that guy was on here but not for long...
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From the audio file of Hanna's call to GCPD it is clear that Hanna was aware that the law had changed and he was definitely unsure as to the legality of carrying in a public park, yet he subsequently confronts Mr. Proescher, states that carrying in the park is not permitted, and the tensions escalated from there.

Mr. Hanna tells the dispatcher he needed to know if carrying in a public park was legal, and, if so, he intended to "check his permit." This, too, is illegal. A law enforcement officer needs articulable suspicion that one is breaking the law in order to begin the process of checking permits. All Mr. Proescher was doing was walking in the park with a holstered weapon strapped to his hip - all legal in the state of Georgia.

The law was broken by the "Police State" mentality of the rent-a-cop, not by any perceived rudeness on the part of Mr. Proescher.

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i agree that this audio tape of the call will give further credence to the lawsuit and comeback to bite the private security guard and the police in the fact they violated his rights. it was not illegal for him to carry, he had a permit, so therefor nothing illegal happened.

another point is, if you are going to excercise your rights, you had better be prepared for the fact that you will be challenged. how you handle the challenge, might reflect upon how you are dealt with. becoming evasive or rude is probably a good way of being arrested and charged with something. if you remain calm, cooperative and explain your legal rights in a concise and calm manner with some sort of document that states what the legallities are, and then are arrested, it will give further credibility to any lawsuit that would follow.

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