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Old 03-03-2009, 08:46 PM   #11
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I have a quick question for you. What's you level of experience with handguns? Have you handled many pistols chambered in larger calibers? What's you level of training in the use of pistols defensively?

I'm asking because you may be better suited with a 9x19 or .40 S&W over the .45 ACP. You may also consider getting a .22 LR conversion slide and sticking with the .45 ACP.

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The other day you guys were talking about the S&W M&P in 45. Is that 45 as good as a 1911?


HOW DARE YOU MR PLUMBR!

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Old 03-03-2009, 10:09 PM   #13
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I personal own a XD45-ACP 13 +1, this is a great firearm.
I second that. I don't use my XD45 for work or anything; it is just for major problem resolution. It has been very simple so far and no misfires or jams yet. I also kinda like that lucky #13. I don't know anything about guns compared to most of these guys, but i know what is simple enough for me to be comfortable with. I also like the added safety of the grip safety. If you are a kermit the frog fan, it is available with green plastic; when i got mine, the 5" was ONLY available in green, still shoots fine though.
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Is the S&W M&P 45 as good as a 1911?



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BLASPHEMY!!

Have this man flogged and keel hauled IMMEDIATELY!!

NOTHING is as good as a properly built 1911. NOTHING!!


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Please forgive my ignorance! I meant no disrespect to the Holy Grail that is the 1911.

That being said I’m probably going to get in even deeper now.

So why are so many other 45s being bought and discussed here on the forum? Why isn’t the 1911 the only weapon being used? Is it too much money, Too large, Small mag. Cap.? Is the 1911 more of a collector’s item then an everyday carry gun? I’m confused.
Again, no blasphemy intended. Tell Mr. Browning’s ghost not to haunt me!
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Please forgive my ignorance! I meant no disrespect to the Holy Grail that is the 1911.

That being said I’m probably going to get in even deeper now.

So why are so many other 45s being bought and discussed here on the forum? Why isn’t the 1911 the only weapon being used? Is it too much money, Too large, Small mag. Cap.? Is the 1911 more of a collector’s item then an everyday carry gun? I’m confused.
Again, no blasphemy intended. Tell Mr. Browning’s ghost not to haunt me!
SWEET MARY MOTHER AND JOSEPH!!!

Oh, I can't respond to this right now. Cane, would you please educate our poor misguided friend, and keep in mind that he does live DEEP behind Occupied Terror-Tory in Kali...

*shaking head sadly and walking away*

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Please forgive my ignorance! I meant no disrespect to the Holy Grail that is the 1911.
The 1911 style is plebeian, the 1911 .460 Rowland is the HOLY GRAIL!

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That being said I’m probably going to get in even deeper now. So why are so many other 45s being bought and discussed here on the forum? Why isn’t the 1911 the only weapon being used? Is it too much money, Too large, Small mag. Cap.? Is the 1911 more of a collector’s item then an everyday carry gun? I’m confused.

Gun style, and the further sub-set of manufacture, are all a matter of personal taste (and economic capability).

My preference is style; 1911 sub-set; Colt. I would love to own a Night Hawk but when I can get the quality of a Colt at less than half the entry fee of the NH, I go with Colt. (For now)

If everyone on the forum had the same tastes it would be a very boring place to visit. (Kinda like the Democratic Party) Bravado and insults spice up the exchange and keeps us comming back!

Viva le difference! The perfect gun is a myth. Your best bet is to listen to what others say and if it strums your heart strings, follow up with research to confirm your interest. There is no wrong choice if you employ this approach. Your decision is exactly that, yours! If my preferences are used in that decision it should be only superficial or you will be wearing "MY GUN" on your hip!

I am a Colt 1911 advocate and have no problem telling anyone that will listen all about my lust! With that said, always remember this quote by Mark Twain:

“The man who is most gullible is the man who is most certain of the truth.”

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Again, no blasphemy intended. Tell Mr. Browning’s ghost not to haunt me!
Oh he knows..........he knows.

Mea culpa: Don't tell anyone but there are a ton of guns (and Mfgs) out there that are very appealing to me. Alas, the aforementioned economic capability limits my ability to just buy them all!

With all that 'nice stuff' said;

All other than true 1911 believers must bow to the only true genius of firearms design!

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Oh he knows..........he knows.
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SWEET MARY MOTHER AND JOSEPH!!!

Oh, I can't respond to this right now. Cane, would you please educate our poor misguided friend, and keep in mind that he does live DEEP behind Occupied Terror-Tory in Kali...

*shaking head sadly and walking away*

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Can someone please check on JD. I think I may have given him a stroke
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Please forgive my ignorance! I meant no disrespect to the Holy Grail that is the 1911.

That being said I’m probably going to get in even deeper now.

So why are so many other 45s being bought and discussed here on the forum? Why isn’t the 1911 the only weapon being used? Is it too much money, Too large, Small mag. Cap.? Is the 1911 more of a collector’s item then an everyday carry gun? I’m confused.
Again, no blasphemy intended. Tell Mr. Browning’s ghost not to haunt me!
The platform is simplicity in it's purest form. Because of this, it lends itself to tuning at levels that aren't practical in other pistols. The controls are located exactly where they should be. They're ergonomically perfect and completely intuitive.

With a little discipline and a lot of range time, the 1911 becomes an extension of your body. There is no longer any thought process that goes into shooting, it's simply a rapid succession of "front sight, squeeze".

1911s do have lower magazine capacity than many other modern autos, but the single stack magazine allows for what is quite possibly the perfect grip thickness. Many modern 1911s are available with aluminum frames, which helps keep weight down. Many are also available with shorter barrels and slides.

I'm able to drop a magazine into a 10" steel plate at 50 yards in under 10 seconds. It took me 5 or 6 years of shooting my Kimber at least twice a month to do it, but it wouldn't be possible with a lesser pistol.

There are two types of people in this world, those who have never fired a well built 1911 and those who are "fanatics". The day I first fired a 1911 was the day that I traded my H&K USP for the down payment on one. I like to tell everyone considering purchasing a pistol that they owe it to themselves to compare a nice 1911 to the other pistols that they're looking at.
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There are two types of people in this world, those who have never fired a well built 1911 and those who are "fanatics". The day I first fired a 1911 was the day that I traded my H&K USP for the down payment on one.
Thanks for the info Matt. I think I'll go to the range and see if I become a believer.
I keep hearing the term "well built 1911", meaning a good manufacturer? Like Colt or Kimber?.
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Ok, I too am in the market for a CCW! After reading this it has definitely opened my eyes to the world that is the 1911! So I went to the Kimber website and started reading. Turns out, there's only about 7000 different options and varieties on the model to choose from. So what are the suggestions as to which road to take in this "spaghetti junction"?

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