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Old 09-20-2012, 01:51 PM   #11
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Can't really help you with shoulder rigs. However, I do play Mr. Mom most everyday, as do I carry. I tote my son around on my left side while I carry IWB on my 3:00. Every now and then I'll have to put him right hip. My firearm always stays concealed and secure in my holster. So while I don't prefer it, I, and you if you're comfortable enough, can get by. You'll come to find that your child will be in a cart or stroller most of the time. And really, carrying will become second nature and it'll feel odd not to have your firearm.
Good info, thanks. One of the other things that might preclude a shoulder carry when I have my son with me without the wife around is the diaper bag. I carry it cross-body, and the strap would prevent access to the holster without a lot of fumbling. Of course, once he's in the stroller or seat, the bag is as well. Should I need to draw while wearing the bag, I'd also be holding my son. In that case it'd end up being a moot point, as I'm not drawing while he's in my arms. In that case, I either hand over what I've got, or turtle over him and pray.

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IMO, having one setup for CC is like having one set of shoes that you rely on for all occasions.
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I can GUARANTEE you, you'll end up with 5 holsters for every gun you have trying to find what works best for you, I have enough left over to see me through the rapture.
Makes sense. I have a feeling I'm going to end up in the "box o' holsters" club.

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The idea of carrying in a horizontal shoulder rig has always been uncomfortable to me. Not physically, though.

I'm always telling my students to be cautious of where the muzzle of their carry piece is pointed, even when holstered. Some people think I'm being ridiculous.

"Never point your gun at something you aren't willing to kill or destroy."

I can't imagine how many people one is likely to muzzle when using a horizontal shoulder rig.
I'm a little conflicted on this as well. While I had those rules pounded into my head for years in the Marines, we never worried about inert or grounded weapons. I'd walk in front of a Ma Deuce with a belt in and a round chambered so long as no one had their hand on the weapon.
On the other hand, I do get annoyed at the yahoos at the local Cabelas who pick up a rifle or shotgun off the used rack and sight in at a display shelf or out across the store. Every gun there has a trigger lock on it, but it's the principle of the thing.
It's a struggle between knowing the safety rules, and realizing that a handgun doesn't cook off in a shoulder rig while you're standing in line at the drugstore.


Thanks everyone. All good info. Looks like I'll be investing in a few setups to wear around the house (unloaded ) to get a feel for each system. Just can't leave the house/property til my license is in-hand. I also have to read up on the open carry rules here in Maine, and how they cover transition from concealed to open. Say, if I wear a shoulder holster under my winter jacket, and the restaurant gets too warm or what have you.


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Good info, thanks. One of the other things that might preclude a shoulder carry when I have my son with me without the wife around is the diaper bag. I carry it cross-body, and the strap would prevent access to the holster without a lot of fumbling. Of course, once he's in the stroller or seat, the bag is as well. Should I need to draw while wearing the bag, I'd also be holding my son. In that case it'd end up being a moot point, as I'm not drawing while he's in my arms. In that case, I either hand over what I've got, or turtle over him and pray.





Makes sense. I have a feeling I'm going to end up in the "box o' holsters" club.



I'm a little conflicted on this as well. While I had those rules pounded into my head for years in the Marines, we never worried about inert or grounded weapons. I'd walk in front of a Ma Deuce with a belt in and a round chambered so long as no one had their hand on the weapon.
On the other hand, I do get annoyed at the yahoos at the local Cabelas who pick up a rifle or shotgun off the used rack and sight in at a display shelf or out across the store. Every gun there has a trigger lock on it, but it's the principle of the thing.
It's a struggle between knowing the safety rules, and realizing that a handgun doesn't cook off in a shoulder rig while you're standing in line at the drugstore.


Thanks everyone. All good info. Looks like I'll be investing in a few setups to wear around the house (unloaded ) to get a feel for each system. Just can't leave the house/property til my license is in-hand. I also have to read up on the open carry rules here in Maine, and how they cover transition from concealed to open. Say, if I wear a shoulder holster under my winter jacket, and the restaurant gets too warm or what have you.
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'98 to '02. I EAS'd the summer before before my unit deployed to Iraq for Iraqi Freedom. My stepmother used to call me every other day at college to make sure I hadn't been recalled. I patiently explained to her that they don't recall infantry grunts, just engineers and flyers.
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I came in March of 98 and retired in 11. Was in 1st Bn 10th Marines by late 98.
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Some people like belly bands. They can ride lower than a shoulder holster so you could get to the gun by lifting up your shirt instead of trying to reach through the collar. I don't know if that would seem as out of the way to you as a shoulder rig.

Others also like Smart Carry. It's very out of the way, and hopefully won't have as much of a "fidget factor" as your pocket.

Have you chosen a gun for carry yet? Some people like to pick the gun, then dress around it. Others decide on their style of dress and choose the gun accordingly. It's just a matter of preference.

Personally, I carry IWB on my right (strong) side. I still carry my son sometimes (he's 3). When I do, he goes on my left hip.

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No way in the hoosier heat can I wrap a belly band with a pistol in it around my gut. Hell I can barely stand a lightweight army tshirt in the summer. I bought a belly band once and ended up giving it away.

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Some people like belly bands. They can ride lower than a shoulder holster so you could get to the gun by lifting up your shirt instead of trying to reach through the collar. I don't know if that would seem as out of the way to you as a shoulder rig.

Others also like Smart Carry. It's very out of the way, and hopefully won't have as much of a "fidget factor" as your pocket.

Have you chosen a gun for carry yet? Some people like to pick the gun, then dress around it. Others decide on their style of dress and choose the gun accordingly. It's just a matter of preference.

Personally, I carry IWB on my right (strong) side. I still carry my son sometimes (he's 3). When I do, he goes on my left hip.
Belly band might work. I'll have to do some research on them.

I own a CZ 82 right now. I've read that some consider it heavy for carry, but I don't mind the weight right now. I really like it, so I'm likely going to plan to carry it.
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I'd just carry a few different ways till you find what's right for you.

IMO, a shoulder rig wouldn't work, especially with a hoodie.

(I like them during cool weather, also.) Experiment, till you

find something with which you're comfortable.

I didn't carry with a round chambered, till I found a comfortable way to

CC. There's a lot of personal issues involved, and you'll have to work it

out for yourself.

But a CZ is a good start, they make great stuff.

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