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Old 02-13-2013, 03:25 PM   #21
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this is a tough subject. here is what i think.
yes, if classes are mandatory its an infringment.
however i also think that perhaps a class should be made available with the purchase of a persons FIRST firearm. not mandatory. but highly encouraged, perhaps even adding tickets for a class and adding that cost to the price of the FIRST gun. i also think a big portion of the class should be actual shooting time. but after that it should be solely on the person to seek out training( which i encourage).

if you make a mistake, the responsibility should be on the INDIVIDUAL.
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this is a tough subject. here is what i think.
yes, if classes are mandatory its an infringment.
however i also think that perhaps a class should be made available with the purchase of a persons FIRST firearm. not mandatory. but highly encouraged, perhaps even adding tickets for a class and adding that cost to the price of the FIRST gun. i also think a big portion of the class should be actual shooting time. but after that it should be solely on the person to seek out training( which i encourage).

if you make a mistake, the responsibility should be on the INDIVIDUAL.
Agree with most BUT how to determine its the first firearm?
We sure don't want records kept----
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I've seen those morons on the range and I'm more comfortable with my 11 year old shooting than those fools.
My father and grandfather taught me about safe gun handling and how to hunt and shoot. If I pointed a weapon or swept the barrel past someone I got a whipping on the spot! A lot of younger people aren't getting the same training I did. Training classes never hurt anyone.
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My father and grandfather taught me about safe gun handling and how to hunt and shoot. If I pointed a weapon or swept the barrel past someone I got a whipping on the spot! A lot of younger people aren't getting the same training I did. Training classes never hurt anyone.
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I think there should be a minimal fee just to cover the costs of background checks but no classes should be required.

I think taking a comprehensive course on self defense and your state laws is a damn good idea but im totally against government mandates.

Self defense is pretty easy:

Am i about to be shot or shot at?? Yes. Open fire
Am i about to be robbed?? Yes. Open fire
Am i about to be raped?? Yes. Open fire
Is there a burgler in my home?? Yes. Open fire

I think you get the idea


Its not really that hard
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Agree with most BUT how to determine its the first firearm?
We sure don't want records kept----
true, very true.

how about after the first gun you are given a little certifacate. say the size of business card. theres no record of it anywhere. just a card that when shown means you know your stuff. lol.

or we can just not worry about it at all and smirk when sittin on jury seat hearing a case of how a new gun owner bought a gun. never got any training and shot his dang arm off.
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It stinks..... I would like to see every gun owner have the interest to learn..... but as a requirement it stinks.

It stinks of an infringement of rights. It stinks of a feel good solution. It stinks because you can't get that damm criminal to take the class.....

I would like to see classes provided that discuss the law, it's impact and nuances for the gun totin' law abiding citizen to stay law abiding. But not as a requirement.

It's really a matter of "Where do you draw the line" I draw it a little closer to the gun grabbers, don't need them getting close.
Some like to think they will be safe if they draw the line as a circle around themselves. I like to draw it as a line around the gun grabbers.
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The AZ course I took was mostly legal aspects but we did have to qualify with our weapon. WA was paperwork and OR was an interview with the sheriff.
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In Iowa if you show a DD214 (Military Discharge) you do not have to take a course. Having been in two branches of the military, I took the course anyway, mostly for the legal aspects. Ironically, you don't have to qualify with a handgun to receive a permit in Iowa.
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One other thing. I would honestly be conflicted if i saw a known gun grabbing liberal being attacked on whether to use my gun to save them. I would call 911 but im not sure i would want to upset their moral superiority by me using a firearm to save them. It would be hard decision.
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