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Dr_Shakalu 06-17-2008 06:23 PM

Limit Of Rounds To Carry In Magazine
 
Hey everyone. I was wondering, I live in California and we have a law that limits how many rounds we can have in the magazine. Does this law apply for law enforcement also? I'm looking at the Glock 21SF and it can be bought with a 13 round magazine. Thanks, The Doctor.

ScottG 06-17-2008 11:41 PM

Laws limiting you never apply to government agencies....

CA357 06-17-2008 11:44 PM

Bingo! :mad:

ScottG 06-18-2008 01:33 AM

Because California has capacity limits, you'll just have to check with your gun dealer to find out if it's available to you.

Dr_Shakalu 06-18-2008 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottG (Post 28278)
Because California has capacity limits, you'll just have to check with your gun dealer to find out if it's available to you.

I'm actually starting the San Francisco police academy in September. My friend has a Glock .45 that I love and it can use an optional 13 round magazine. I was thinking that if after the academy and I can qualify with it, I would feel more comfortable with the extra rounds. The Doctor.

ScottG 06-18-2008 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Shakalu (Post 28289)
I'm actually starting the San Francisco police academy in September. My friend has a Glock .45 that I love and it can use an optional 13 round magazine. I was thinking that if after the academy and I can qualify with it, I would feel more comfortable with the extra rounds. The Doctor.

Well, that's a little different then. I'm sure as a peace officer you'll be able to use it, but I wouldn't doubt that once you clock out, the mag has to be locked up. You're still a civilian after all. I don't know if there's an off duty exemption from gun laws for police.

Dr_Shakalu 06-18-2008 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottG (Post 28292)
Well, that's a little different then. I'm sure as a peace officer you'll be able to use it, but I wouldn't doubt that once you clock out, the mag has to be locked up. You're still a civilian after all. I don't know if there's an off duty exemption from gun laws for police.

I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who's in the department. He said that as long as I qualify with the gun, the limitation law for rounds still don't apply even when I'm off duty because some still carry their gun from work concealed when off duty. Thanks, The Doctor.

G21.45 06-18-2008 06:14 PM

After having spent more than half my life with a Colt 1911-A1 fitted with a 7 round magazine, I fail to see the disadvantage to carrying 10 rounds of 45 acp in the pistol? In earlier days we used to carry 2 extra 7 round magazines on our belts and never loaded an 8th round into the chamber on top of a fully charged magazine because that might have caused a top round jam.

Today, I carry a Glock Model G-21. That's 13 rounds in the pistol and 17 more rounds carried as backup inside an Arredondo magazine on my belt. That's 30 rounds in total! OK, shooting style and technique have changed; so, I'll grant that 30 rounds today doesn't equate to the same thing as 21 rounds yesterday.

Nowadays, a combat pistol tends to be fired, either, twice or thrice every time that it's used. Roughly speaking the total 30 rounds I carry, today, equate to the spare 14 rounds I carried yesterday. This means that today's different self-defense methods and pistol firing techniques have effectively reduced the greater amount of ammunition I'm presently carrying by more than half!

This being said: I, too, really like and trust my G-21's. All pistol ammunition performs, at best, only marginally. Still, with a longer barrel and larger heavier bullets my G-21's hit about as hard (and as often) as I could hope for out of any combat handgun.

Then -

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4336/behlert4fy5.jpg

Now -

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/883/glockg213bd9.jpg

Dr_Shakalu 06-21-2008 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G21.45 (Post 28369)
After having spent more than half my life with a Colt 1911-A1 fitted with a 7 round magazine, I fail to see the disadvantage to carrying 10 rounds of 45 acp in the pistol? In earlier days we used to carry 2 extra 7 round magazines on our belts and never loaded an 8th round into the chamber on top of a fully charged magazine because that might have caused a top round jam.

Today, I carry a Glock Model G-21. That's 13 rounds in the pistol and 17 more rounds carried as backup inside an Arredondo magazine on my belt. That's 30 rounds in total! OK, shooting style and technique have changed; so, I'll grant that 30 rounds today doesn't equate to the same thing as 21 rounds yesterday.

Nowadays, a combat pistol tends to be fired, either, twice or thrice every time that it's used. Roughly speaking the total 30 rounds I carry, today, equate to the spare 14 rounds I carried yesterday. This means that today's different self-defense methods and pistol firing techniques have effectively reduced the greater amount of ammunition I'm presently carrying by more than half!

This being said: I, too, really like and trust my G-21's. All pistol ammunition performs, at best, only marginally. Still, with a longer barrel and larger heavier bullets my G-21's hit about as hard (and as often) as I could hope for out of any combat handgun.

Then -

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4336/behlert4fy5.jpg

Now -

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/883/glockg213bd9.jpg

How much further does the 17 round mag stick out? Also, I guess you can't carry the 17 round mag in the gun, but only use as a reload?. The Doctor.

G21.45 06-21-2008 02:15 PM

Far enough that you couldn't carry the pistol with the Arredondo extension installed in the gun. If you did, you'd be, 'patterning' just about every time you moved. I carry mine, straight up and down, on my belt; it's strictly a backup magazine. Still, the Arredondo magazine runs flawlessly and is not, at all, difficult to carry.

If you carry a Glock with a backup magazine then, as far as I'm concerned, it might as well be an Arredondo.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/171...onong21en4.jpg


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