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Old 07-17-2011, 07:15 PM   #11
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Wow, good read! One thing mentioned in the article was pursuit policy changes to protect the innocent public. It would also apply in this officers unexpected situation. First, in retrospect I agree his #1 priority would have been to escort his family personally to safety, although I don't fault him for his public off duty actions. It's a tragic shame that little girl died. Most of the time, as in this police officers encounter, it is not known at the time if a horrific action was committed by the criminal. So the question becomes, do they let a murderer or serial killer flee to protect innocent life at the time, and hope the murderer is caught before he/she kills again? What a tragic event and something to think about as a civilian in public places.
QUESTION: [COLOR="Black"]Standing in the same line at McDonald's right behind or in front of this same officer, and being privy to hear the same information he did, what would you do, help him? IMO, I would get my pretty little derrière immediately out of there. Thoughts?



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Wow, good read! One thing mentioned in the article was pursuit policy changes to protect the innocent public. It would also apply in this officers unexpected situation. First, in retrospect I agree his #1 priority would have been to escort his family personally to safety, although I don't fault him for his public off duty actions. It's a tragic shame that little girl died. Most of the time, as in this police officers encounter, it is not known at the time if a horrific action was committed by the criminal. So the question becomes, do they let a murderer or serial killer flee to protect innocent life at the time, and hope the murderer is caught before he/she kills again? What a tragic event and something to think about as a civilian in public places.
QUESTION: [COLOR="Black"]Standing in the same line at McDonald's right behind or in front of this same officer, and being privy to hear the same information he did, what would you do, help him? IMO, I would get my pretty little derrière immediately out of there. Thoughts?
prolly would have let him provide cover while i got the rest of the peeps out of the building


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A crowded McDonald's undoubtably crowded with children.
I knowing the place was being robbed I would have first taken
my own kids outside to safety then probably waylay the perp
once he stepped outside with the loot. A nine-year old girl would
have still been alive today. But then again, hindsight is 20/20.
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Wow, when I read about the little girl my heart sank. I can only imagine how that would make me feel if I had been the one in this situation. Yes, it's tragic, but you can't start play the what if game. You never win at the what if game. I agree that I would have made sure that the customer were out before I headed to the back.

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prolly would have let him provide cover while i got the rest of the peeps out of the building
Exactly the right thing to do.
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First post on the forms. Hi guys.

Reading stuff like this really shows how huge of a responsibility ccw is, realistically I don't now how I would react in a situation like that. it's one thing to sit behind a key board and say what'd you do, or be in a classroom and talk about what you would do. Whole different story when it's in your face.
I'm getting my ccw very soon, just waiting for the card to come in the mail now, reading stuff like this and hearing various people stories is a great help.
Glad I found this forum.

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That was a shocking read. I don't know how anyone can kill another human being. Shocking!! Sometimes if you try to talk nicely, people would be willing to cooperate with you.
"I guess we'll all just turn in our sixguns to the bartender and start hoeing spuds."

You definitely don't need to be carrying a gun. While you are talking nice to them they will
take it away from you and kill you with it.


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