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Old 09-29-2013, 01:17 AM   #101
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He may have not even been from Australia. He may have just come up with that as an excuse as to why it couldn't have been an airsoft.
True, though he did seem to have a little bit of knowledge in other topics about how the system works here...
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I have not read all of th eposts but here's what I have to say.

As a life-long California resident I have seen a lot of gun laws passed by Sacramento. I have never witnessed any remarkable level of compliance via the turning in of firearms or selling them out of state.

Our State representatives seem to be comfortably oblivious to the fact that in response to Draconian new laws, California gun owners will by and large seek some means to either circumvent those new laws or find ways to hide the newly outlawed items. The response I have seen by many gun owners was to seek out hide-away gun safes, building false walls, buying second, third or more safes so that any authorities might not be able to find all of the guns. Same thing with ammo and magazines. I have been to the range with police officers and they are just as bad! I have had police officers ask me if I want to buy standard capacity magazines that hold more than the legal 10-round limit allowed by law. It is a common greeting at the range when people find out you have an AR "You need any Hi-cap mags?" to which the usual response is "I'm good.". I have been to the range with a buddy who was at the range with a prohibited AR15 and several local LEOs took the benches next to us. We had hi-cap mags and everything. We all had a great day shooting each other's guns and shooting the bull as well. They asked if he knew that his gun was illegal and just smiled when he feigned shock and ignorance. There are many shooting competitions where people will bring their illegal magazines and use them in competition alongside many LEAs who are also competing.

To more recent laws that are going through the motions most California gun owners are saying "ENOUGH!" by no longer going out of our way to comply with them. For many this means they will no longer be executing private party transfers through an FFL as long as both parties are certain that the other is not prohibited from owning a firearm.

In other words, just because they have passed the laws does not by any means mean that we are complying with them. Its called peaceful non-compliance.

Should the authorities attempt to take away these guns and they would have a firefight on their hands in many, many cases.

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I have not read all of th eposts but here's what I have to say.

As a life-long California resident I have seen a lot of gun laws passed by Sacramento. I have never witnessed any remarkable level of compliance via the turning in of firearms or selling them out of state.

Our State representatives seem to be comfortably oblivious to the fact that in response to Draconian new laws, California gun owners will by and large seek some means to either circumvent those new laws or find ways to hide the newly outlawed items. The response I have seen by many gun owners was to seek out hide-away gun safes, building false walls, buying second, third or more safes so that any authorities might not be able to find all of the guns. Same thing with ammo and magazines. I have been to the range with police officers and they are just as bad! I have had police officers ask me if I want to buy standard capacity magazines that hold more than the legal 10-round limit allowed by law. It is a common greeting at the range when people find out you have an AR "You need any Hi-cap mags?" to which the usual response is "I'm good.". I have been to the range with a buddy who was at the range with a prohibited AR15 and several local LEOs took the benches next to us. We had hi-cap mags and everything. We all had a great day shooting each other's guns and shooting the bull as well. They asked if he knew that his gun was illegal and just smiled when he feigned shock and ignorance. There are many shooting competitions where people will bring their illegal magazines and use them in competition alongside many LEAs who are also competing.

To more recent laws that are going through the motions most California gun owners are saying "ENOUGH!" by no longer going out of our way to comply with them. For many this means they will no longer be executing private party transfers through an FFL as long as both parties are certain that the other is not prohibited from owning a firearm.

In other words, just because they have passed the laws does not by any means mean that we are complying with them. Its called peaceful non-compliance.

Should the authorities attempt to take away these guns and they would have a firefight on their hands in many, many cases.
Civil disobedience. I love it!

If more people would simply ignore those laws, the laws themselves would become meaningless and the antis couldn't really do anything about it.
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Civil disobedience. I love it!

If more people would simply ignore those laws, the laws themselves would become meaningless and the antis couldn't really do anything about it.
Something is only a law if we accept it as a law.
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What I describe is essentially in the same spirit as the Boston Tea Party more or less, except in this case in order to be disobedient one merely has to do nothing.

There have been rumors that CA DOJ officers are going to Nevada gun shows and taking note of CA license plates in the parking lots. They will reportedly then show up at the person's home in CA and demand to see any purchases they might have made in NV. Of course they can't legally force people to disclose these things but they will attempt to bully people into confessing and showing them stuff. Not sure if this is just a rumor or not, but its out there.

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Most can agree that Morgan in a prat. But you would be mistaken if you think that his exposure on the media does not influence some to agree with further gun control you are kidding yourself. If it makes any difference or not is another matter.

Do you not think there are plenty like that n America.
those people probably already think gun control or more gun control is a good idea to begin with. he's preaching to his own choir.

anyone with half a brain, that understands how to use reasoning doesn't give any ratiional thought to what Piers Morgan thinks.

people with common sense know he's an idiot. people who think he know what he's taking about,and agree with him, are idiots.

i don't tend to associate or socialize with idiots, nor allow them to be around me.
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True, though he did seem to have a little bit of knowledge in other topics about how the system works here...
in all fairness, you can pick up a lot of knowledge off the internet. personally, i think the kid was a poser and a wannabe.
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Morgan is just a pain in the ass the Americans that were sticking their noses into N Irelands affairs in the past caused a lot of lives here.[/QUOTE]

Please note, before you tar us all with the same brush, It was not your every day, run of the mill, American gun owner who were sticking their noses into Northern Ireland. It was the elitist power of our government that that sticks it's nose into everybody's business in the world, for what ever reason, with little regard to what we think. I am happy to say that "We the People", spoke out about not wanting to militarily intervene in Syria, and it didn't happen. Maybe there is hope for us yet

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They are relentless in their drive to ban guns for the "good of the people" and this is the sort of **** you Yanks will now be facing.
We have catch phrases here too. Ours is "For the children", or if you like, "Sandyhook", or "Columbine". Tragedies that our politicians want to do a quick easy fix buy attacking gun ownership, rather than finding out what the hard, physically challenging reasons are for why we have violent, sick elements, and fixing that.

And for the life of me, why they can want to ban guns in this country, because we are so violent, but want to send guns to Syria. Is it because Syria is a such a peaceful place? How does this reasoning work?
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We have catch phrases here too. Ours is "For the children", or if you like, "Sandyhook", or "Columbine". Tragedies that our politicians want to do a quick easy fix buy attacking gun ownership, rather than finding out what the hard, physically challenging reasons are for why we have violent, sick elements, and fixing that.

And for the life of me, why they can want to ban guns in this country, because we are so violent, but want to send guns to Syria. Is it because Syria is a such a peaceful place? How does this reasoning work?
they use that as their catch-all phrase to explain why gun control laws are good. they use other things like, it's to help deter or stop violent incidents from happening. but just at the first of this year, when Obama tasked his VP Biden to look into new gun control laws, even Biden himself said, none of his proposals would have made any difference in the Sandy Hook or Aurora shootings.

so why would they want to pass new laws that are ineffective to begin with? simple. GUN CONTROL! control the people! just another attempt at shackling the LAC, and does nothing to hinder or dter any of the criminals or the mentally unstable.
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