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Old 07-16-2011, 02:12 AM   #1
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Me and Ms. Winch were anchored out on the Chesapeake Bay fishing. We see one of those orange Coast Guard poontoon boats approaching and there are 4 on board, each with side arms. They pull up and tell me they are gonna board my boat and do a safety check...and......DO I HAVE ANY WEAPONS???

Well, not yet, but I'm gonna get a 870 Marine Magnum.

Anyway, it's too rough for them to tie up and board so they ask me who is the Captain, I say "me". So we go through the drill and I'm good except I can't find my Type 4 Throwable.....I did find it after about 10 minutes. They write me up with a warning and tell me have a nice day do I have any questions.

Well, I say yeah, what's up with the weapons question? Are guns illegal on a boat?

They say that they just wanna know, and as long as the weapons are are "legal" then no problem.

I asked specifically about handguns, and they said as long as the paperwork is in order no problem.

I'm thinking they gave me bad scoop. I bet if I had a handgun on board there would be a world of problems.

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Old 07-16-2011, 02:29 AM   #2
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Afraid my response would have been "Why? I thought you guys had your own. Budget cutbacks again?"

Have a good friend that was a career Coastie, and I never miss a chance to give him a load of crap-

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Dems fightin words C3

The reason for the question is officer safety They are Federal Law Enforcement Officers and just as street cops ask the question they want to know if there are any firearms on board for their safety. They may take possesion while doing their Safety check and return it when they finish. No conspiracy.

Was it one of these, my wife is in the back window

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Interesting scenario...who has jurisdiction? Are coastal waters under state, local or federal control? Do maratime laws trump local laws. I have always interpreted the "fields and waters" clause of most states gun laws as permitting possession of guns while aboard a boat. Is this incorrect?

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The reason for the question is officer safety <snip> They may take possesion while doing their Safety check and return it when they finish. No conspiracy.
Er. No idea if this has been hashed out here already as it has been on my home board, and I don't know your State's requirements, but "for officer safety" is not a good enough excuse to violate my rights.

I may have to swallow it at that time - obviously, I'm not going to resist - but the officer's agency will be hearing from me shortly thereafter.
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The info given by the coastie is corect as far as my personal expereince goes. Last year I was out on Pudget Sound salmon fishing on a buddies boat and was board by the Coast Guard. They asked the same question and my buddy said nope, I corrected him with a yes. After a few seconds of puzzlement they asked where the firearm was, I told them on my person. They boarded, asked to see my CPL, inspected the boat and left.

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Coast Guard has jurisdiction in the ocean, on Rivers that you can navigate from the ocean and lakes that have state borders going through them ie Lahe Tahoe between CA & NV

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I was boarded many times. They ask the question for their own saftey. They just want to know what to expect.
I was never treated with anything but respect by the C.G.

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They ask it because they are more proactive and smarter than the bonehead in the video that has created so much buzz elsewhere on this forum.

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Er. No idea if this has been hashed out here already as it has been on my home board, and I don't know your State's requirements, but "for officer safety" is not a good enough excuse to violate my rights.

I may have to swallow it at that time - obviously, I'm not going to resist - but the officer's agency will be hearing from me shortly thereafter.
How do you believe that they'd be violating your rights by asking this? The USCG has every legal right to board any vessel in their jurisdiction to conduct a safety check. They certainly are not violating anyone's constitutional rights by asking if there are any weapons on board before boarding. It's no different that a LEO asking if there are any weapons inside the vehicle during a traffic stop. It is perfectly reasonable.
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