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Old 07-11-2011, 05:20 AM   #41
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This brings to light an issue that I've been thinking about. Should you break the law knowingly (carry in an unlawful place) to be sure that you can provide yourself and those around you with protection from the people who would do evil? Obviously this doesn't apply to LEOs.
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:13 PM   #42
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The original intent of GFZ's was to create a "charge" for thug's, pushers, ect, who hung out close to inner city schools looking to target students.

The unintended consequence with all GFZ's is the creation of DVZ's, "defenseless victim zones".

Hypothetical Question...Say you as an armed CCW holder, unknowingly wandered into a GFZ/DVZ and while you were present encountered a work place shooter hell bent on causing death any mayhem. Let's assume you were able to save not only your life, but dozens of lives gauging by the amount of ammo the "now ventilated" nut job was carrying.

Would you really care about receiving the charge of violating a GFZ or would you be grateful to be alive and able to answer this BS charge?

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In Alabama a CHL license holder (or LEO of course) may legally CC on K-12 school campuses, but strangely enough not college/university campuses.

The assistant principal (a USMC veteran whose name escapes me) of Pearl (Mississippi) High School had to run 6 blocks to get to his pick-up truck to retrieve his 1911 .45 (he couldn't park on school grounds due to the idiotic GFZ law Mississippi had at the time to stop Luke Woodham when Woodham came into the school shooting students armed with a 30/30 rifle. Woodham surrendered immediately when confronted by the assistant principal pointing his .45 at him.

The Mississippi Legislature changed their GFZ law to exempt CCW holders from the law very shortly thereafter (according to the the Mississippi AG at a training seminar on school violence in Birmingham, AL in 1998 (or 99) sponsored by the Alabama AG I attended).
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Just to add to this as truevil1313's post says Texas is getting closer to open carry. How will this effect "GFZ"s?
in wisconsin we dealt with in that permit holders are exempt from crime victim zone law. unfortunately cant go in buildings but the 1000foot rule doesnt apply.

there is a reason most mass killings take place in gun free work places and schools.
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I think they are bull****, I would very willingly pay to take a safety course get a license what ever, just to have no gun laws. I'm talking no full auto ban, no gun free zones.... I hate that we need to live in a world where we accommodate for the minority.
We do need to stop catering to criminals...
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i agree, which is why i moved out of California for good years ago.
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We do need to stop catering to criminals...
Who is doing the catering? The Legislators. Does that make them enablers or criminals?
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I herd on the news here in milwaukee even though open carry is legalo here
a man ON HIS OWN LAND was arested in madison! the charge....disordly
conduct! but madison is full of WACKOS LEFTYS.
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I herd on the news here in milwaukee even though open carry is legalo here
a man ON HIS OWN LAND was arested in madison! the charge....disordly
conduct! but madison is full of WACKOS LEFTYS.
If I were him I would be suing the crap out of someone.
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Gun Free Zones are a welcome mat for gun violence. The criminal with intent isn't going to obey the damned signage or the laws!! The laws do not protect anyone!!
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