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Moon_Bounce 10-16-2013 03:09 PM

Home Invasion
 
A couple nights ago my girlfriend and I were laying in bed when we started to hear unusual noises downstairs on the main level. We do live in a double block on a main road so we are used to hearing noises. But my girlfriend and I both thought it was something more than our neighbors walking around opening cabinets and such. So I grabbed my pistol, checked all of my corners while making sure my home was not occupied by an intruder or intruders. I check everywhere in my house my house was clear nothing was stolen and there were no signs of an entry. Thankfully.

However I cannot stop thinking about that night and what if two people were in my home what would I have done. I know what I would have done if there was one but what if as I came down my stairs I saw one individual in my living room and I didn't know about the other in my kitchen or my basement which are blind spots from where I was standing. I could could ask the intruder if there are others with him but he could lie and the others could attack me when I have my back turned.

How do I contain one intruder without knowing the possibility of others?

Any recommendations? Has anybody been in a situation like this before?

kytowboater 10-16-2013 03:32 PM

I like to hold them down and tickle them. Make them giggle and urinate on themselves.

Then, I tea bag them and give them a mushroom stamp.

They won't ever forget that. After I post the photographs online everywhere.

HOSSFLY 10-16-2013 04:21 PM

Watch action movies & clear the house dressed as--
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...etCommando.jpg

eborden1122 10-16-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Moon_Bounce (Post 1403473)
A couple nights ago my girlfriend and I were laying in bed when we started to hear unusual noises downstairs on the main level. We do live in a double block on a main road so we are used to hearing noises. But my girlfriend and I both thought it was something more than our neighbors walking around opening cabinets and such. So I grabbed my pistol, checked all of my corners while making sure my home was not occupied by an intruder or intruders. I check everywhere in my house my house was clear nothing was stolen and there were no signs of an entry. Thankfully.

However I cannot stop thinking about that night and what if two people were in my home what would I have done. I know what I would have done if there was one but what if as I came down my stairs I saw one individual in my living room and I didn't know about the other in my kitchen or my basement which are blind spots from where I was standing. I could could ask the intruder if there are others with him but he could lie and the others could attack me when I have my back turned.

How do I contain one intruder without knowing the possibility of others?

Any recommendations? Has anybody been in a situation like this before?

Try and find a home protection/defense class. That is what I am doing thru a local NRA instructor. Then practice inside your house with other family members so they know what to do as well. Get a second weapon for your girlfriend as well so she can protect herself. Good luck and take care.

DeltaF 10-16-2013 06:17 PM

Safely clearing a building or room alone is practically impossible. Ideally you need at least 1 other person to watch your back while you engage each threat area.

Obviously thats a luxury we don't always have in home defense. There are a lot of different schools of thought on this, because there's no "perfect" way to do it. You will always be blind to the other threat areas around you.

This is the ultimate super short version of what we are trained to do when we have to clear a building by ourselves: Start from the room you're in and clear room. Never pass an open room or threat area. Always keep the clear areas behind you and the threat areas in front of you when possible.

If you find a person, you want to engage them from behind concealment or cover if possible and again if you can you want to keep all the threat areas in front of you and all the areas you cleared behind you.

You should start giving loud verbal commands. If you see a gun have them place it on the ground and slide it across the floor towards you and check them for other weapons (easiest way is by making them show you their waistband, turn their pockets inside out and show you their ankles) then order them to get on the ground and face away from you. If/when they comply, scan for other threats, secure their weapon, and then check the rest of the threat areas for other intruders.

If you do this from behind cover and have the "safe" areas that you have already cleared behind you, you minimize the chance of being flanked or overpowered.

In reality the person in your house will probably run like hell when they come face to face with the barrel of a gun and an angry homeowner behind it. That's the number 1 fear of most burglars.

orangello 10-16-2013 06:45 PM

GF needs a shotgun or something for stationary defense from behind the mattress.



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Originally Posted by Moon_Bounce (Post 1403473)
...How do I contain one intruder without knowing the possibility of others?

Not saying to do this, but did anybody else think "put him in a coffin"?

purehavoc 10-16-2013 08:15 PM

Stay close to your GF, stay up stairs and get ready, Only you know what to do if someone comes through the door , Insurance will cover your losses to theft .. Let them take what ever they want while you keep yourself and her safe

manta 10-16-2013 08:37 PM

The sensible thing to do would be to sit tight and ring the police. Going round the house trying to clear it unless absolutely necessary would be stupid. Do that and get shot who's going to stop the intruder going after your family.

JW357 10-16-2013 08:45 PM

Good advice posted so far, mostly.

Basically engage one intruder (whether that be shooting them because they are pointing a gun at you, or whatever the case may be, situation will dictate) first. Don't get tunnel vision. Try to scan the room with your peripheral vision while he's still a threat. Pay attention to noises. When the first threat is no longer a threat, start thoroughly searching the house for another threat.

As Delta said, clearing a room safely by yourself is very difficult, if not impossible. The idea is to not allow yourself to be flanked. No blind spots.

When we clear rooms, we stack up outside the door and enter one immediately after the other. The first guy peels off in one direction to clear his own segment of the room. Depending on what the first person in the stack does, the second will take a different sector. Each person is communicating at all times and they don't move onto the next room until everyone has verified their sector is clear, and therefore the room is clear.

The same principle can sort of be adopted to solo clearing. Don't allow blind spots as much as possible, and deal with the threat as quickly as you can. Everyone's house is setup differently so I can't Tell you specifically what plan to take. However, you need to figure it out, do some dry runs, and inform your woman of how it would work. Think about multiple plans, for multiple entrance point possibilities.

Glad nothing bad came from your experience.

Axxe55 10-16-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by purehavoc (Post 1403671)
Stay close to your GF, stay up stairs and get ready, Only you know what to do if someone comes through the door , Insurance will cover your losses to theft .. Let them take what ever they want while you keep yourself and her safe

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Originally Posted by manta (Post 1403681)
The sensible thing to do would be to sit tight and ring the police. Going round the house trying to clear it unless absolutely necessary would be stupid. Do that and get shot who's going to stop the intruder going after your family.

both of these are actually IMO the best suggestions. probably the safest in keeping your loved one safe as well. you have much better tactical advantage in staying put and behind whatever cover you can find.

now, if you have loved ones in other parts of the house, then this is not always an option and other methods will need to take place, to secure the others safety.


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