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02-20-2013, 02:50 AM
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Oklahoma passed open carry back in March of last year. Went into effect November 1, 2012. I tried it. I like it. Open is much more comfortable than concealed.
My normal attire involves a tucked in shirt, typical business casual. I've gotten a couple different IWB holsters. In both cases, I've tried tucking in my shirts and found that I have a very hard time clearing the shirt off the holster in one pull. I don't feel safe with the gun tucked in.
I've pretty well decided to open carry. I'm looking for advice on open carry holsters. I carry an XDm 9mm Compact. I am now using the paddle holster that came with the gun. I'm sure there are better holsters out there. I'm interested in improving weapon retention.
I do not currently carry around any spare mags, but I'm considering wearing the 2 mag holder that came with the gun as well. What the heck, in for a penny, in for a pound. Any suggestions on mag holder(s) are also welcome.
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You loose the elemement of suprise hopen carry though. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, but I would rather have concealed. But it's what makes you comfortable!
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02-20-2013, 03:01 AM
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It is either rural or urban (city or country), there is no in between! Suburban is urban! 
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OK, then maybe I spend my time in a very busy rural area...
To me it comes down to my perception of risk. Where I go most all the time is familiar to me. People and behaviors that are out of place are quite noticeable. I don't live in a state of perpetual condition orange. When I am going into an area where I'm unfamiliar, my precautions increase. I may still wear OWB, but with a cover garment of some kind. Adapt and survive.
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02-20-2013, 03:20 AM
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I've got a Fobus paddle for my Glock 21 but after seeing videos on YouTube showing how easy it is for an attacker to tear the holster loose from the paddle mount and end up with your gun, I would never trust it for open carry.
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You should definitely use what you feel comfortable with. I started using the Fobus after I started noticing most of the Cops around here using them. That being said I only OC around the farm and then I'm mostly after comfort.
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02-20-2013, 03:26 AM
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If you want to open carry and feel secure that your pistol won't be yanked out of your holster by anyone other than yourself check out a holster that has a PDS system, Mako makes some models with it. You can get them with level I, II or III retention. It's unique in that you push down on the pistol to release it from the holster. If one attempts to simply pull it out of the holster, it ain't going anywhere.
It was designed in Israel, so you know it's tactically capable and well thought out. Check them out.
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02-20-2013, 03:27 AM
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If you want to open carry and feel secure that your pistol won't be yanked out of your holster by anyone other than yourself check out a holster that has a PDS system, Mako makes some models with it. You can get them with level I, II or III retention. It's unique in that you push down on the pistol to release it from the holster. If one attempts to simply pull it out of the holster, it ain't going anywhere.
It was designed in Israel, so you know it's tactically capable and well thought out. Check them out.
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Interesting. I'll check them out!
Edit: Their website does have a PDS Level 1 retention holster for XDm. Looks like a pretty good deal. Sure wish I could see it edge on. I want to use it for both EDC and IDPA. I look at IDPA matches as practice rather than competition. Not sure I want to spend $85-90 for a holster that I can't use for both. IDPA can be kind of particular about what holsters they allow.
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States
Practice does NOT make perfect. Practice makes permanent. Only perfect practice makes perfect.
http://www.xdforum.com/entries/setback-testing-federal-hydrashok-45acp.html
Last edited by Balota; 02-20-2013 at 03:37 AM.
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02-21-2013, 12:26 AM
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As far as open carry goes I'm a teacher...a teacher- and I fully support this. I wish it would be more widely allowed. At my school we did a "code blue" drill: meaning all the kids get in the corner and we wait for someone to attack us- possibly throwing a book at an intruder if applicable. If you have a child in public schools, would you not want a teacher protecting your child the same way you protect your family? I've never felt so helpless, as a newly cwp holder I would love to be able to defend not just my school but your children.
PS: for all you people who think teachers are extreme liberals, I had a long discussion with my 5th graders about WWII and dictatorships eventually discussing fascism and communism. After learning what communism and socialism was I had several students ask, "do we have communism and socialism in America today?" I simply had to say, ask your parents...please don't lose faith in all public institutions: some of us have common sense!
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02-21-2013, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by shorterj88
As far as open carry goes I'm a teacher...a teacher- and I fully support this. I wish it would be more widely allowed. At my school we did a "code blue" drill: meaning all the kids get in the corner and we wait for someone to attack us- possibly throwing a book at an intruder if applicable. If you have a child in public schools, would you not want a teacher protecting your child the same way you protect your family? I've never felt so helpless, as a newly cwp holder I would love to be able to defend not just my school but your children.
PS: for all you people who think teachers are extreme liberals, I had a long discussion with my 5th graders about WWII and dictatorships eventually discussing fascism and communism. After learning what communism and socialism was I had several students ask, "do we have communism and socialism in America today?" I simply had to say, ask your parents...please don't lose faith in all public institutions: some of us have common sense!
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AMEN! I wish there were more like you out there.
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02-21-2013, 01:58 AM
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OK, then maybe I spend my time in a very busy rural area...
To me it comes down to my perception of risk. Where I go most all the time is familiar to me. People and behaviors that are out of place are quite noticeable. I don't live in a state of perpetual condition orange. When I am going into an area where I'm unfamiliar, my precautions increase. I may still wear OWB, but with a cover garment of some kind. Adapt and survive.
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Do as you please, but when or if the bad guy decides to act you will get a bullet in the back of the head first, then I will take him out, if that makes you feel any batter!!!
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02-21-2013, 02:42 AM
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I'm not a fan of open carry. As other posters have stated, I would much rather have the element of surprise, vs in an open carry scenario where someone is about to say, rob the store I;m in and see's me carrying openly and decides to drop me first, as I would be a threat to his success in robbery.
Also, oddly enough, in GA you can only open carry if you have a CWL.
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02-21-2013, 03:33 AM
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Interesting. I'll check them out!
Edit: Their website does have a PDS Level 1 retention holster for XDm. Looks like a pretty good deal. Sure wish I could see it edge on. I want to use it for both EDC and IDPA. I look at IDPA matches as practice rather than competition. Not sure I want to spend $85-90 for a holster that I can't use for both. IDPA can be kind of particular about what holsters they allow.
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Check out zahal.org they have some holsters that have the pds retention level II and III and there are some more photos as well.
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