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Old 02-21-2014, 03:42 AM   #1
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Default Hey, CCW Instructors !

Hey you. Yeah, you. Come over here.

I plan on becoming a CCW instructor in NC as soon as possible after getting there.

Give me advice. Or pointers. What to do, what to avoid. Anything that comes to mind.

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Well. It seems this thread is a bust.

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Not having ever been an instructor, I have nothing to offer. From a student's standpoint, don't be a dumbass and sweep the class while demonstrating various features of a handgun, like my instructor did.

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All I can offer is the first rule of self defense:

Have a gun, any gun.

Second rule:

There is no such place as a safe zone from violent crime.

Third rule:

100% of the time never violate rule number 1. Rule number 2 is always in effect.

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Default Hey, CCW Instructors !

Try posting in the NC State sub-forum. Might get a few bites there.

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Well. It seems this thread is a bust.
I think it was your opening statement.
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Thanks to everyone for the responses. This thread may as well be closed. I'll try again later with more specific questions.

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I think it was your opening statement.
Yeah probably. I was trying to add a bit of humor.

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What is required in that state to be an instructor? I was an instructor in CO for many years. All I needed was the blessing of the County Sherriff. He would except only my letter of training and one from one other instructor to issue the permit. CO went to a shall issue state about the time I left for AK so I am not sure what the 'state' requires now. AK required you submit a lesson plan for their approval before they would recognize you as a 'certified' instructor. I was going to do this in AK but left for AL before I got it done. I still teach Armed Self-defense Classes here, but no training is required (as it should be) to get a permit in AL so I am not required to get any certification in AL.

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Practice your delivery to some friends.
A smooth delivery indicates that you are well versed in the subject matter, that you are avid about the subject, and you are knowledgeable.

Hesitate, say "er, um, or let me look it up", and not being prepared leaves a bad impression.

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I've been a CHL Instructor here in Arkansas for more than two years now, I've averaged one class a month for initial CHL and about 30 Renewals, with a total of just over 100 clients - initial and renewal. I've gotten lots of compliments and almost half of my clients have been referrals.

One thing I did was to think about classes I've taken and the type of instructors which engaged my mindset during the class/training I received. I Served in the USAF for 20 years and encountered a variety of instructors, as well as teachers in college classes and from way back in public school. I also did some training while in the USAF and in preparation for that, I thought about the best and worst I've been on the receiving end from. The worst were those who obviously had no real in-depth knowledge of the subject, next worst were those who were monotone and/or "dry" in their delivery.

Another level of bad, IMNSHO, were the overly arrogant who felt they literally had to talk down to their students, "dumbing down" the information. Talking down to your students is a sure fire way to lose them. It's insulting and you never want to insult even one student, because you're liable to derail the entire class.

The instructors that I decided to emulate were those who:
* highly conversant in the subject;
* threw in the occasional joke or pun;
* made eye contact with the students;
* spoke clearly and distinctly;
* used visual aids, to include video clips to reinforce a concept;
* weren't afraid to admit they didn't know everything; and
* were always patient with the students, even the "commodians" (those who thought they were funny), the know-it-all's or the naturally "slow" whom have to have everything explained to them in great detail.

Positive advice I can give:
* KNOW the material thoroughly. You're likely going to be certified by the state and yourself liable if it can be proven you taught bad information.
* teach, don't preach.
* don't be an arrogant ass.
* don't be dismissive of "stupid" questions, questions not immediately related to the course material or gun choices (this said in light if your attitude towards Glock's). You don't want to alienate your students.
* use humor, but do so sparingly.
* take breaks, either scheduled every hour for 5 to 10 minutes or take a quick poll to see if anyone needs a break.
* don't speak too fast and speak clearly and loud enough to be heard across a room full of people.
* suggest folks who are unsure of what sort if handgun they want to carry, to try a range that rents a variety of handguns. Don't try and "sell" them on a specific pistol. I cringe when people tell me that someone suggested a woman buy a revolver "because that's all a woman can handle", or preach that XXXX-type/brand is better than all others. I carry a Glock, yet recommend to my students that they ask friends whom they know own different handguns if they can go shooting, as well as bring several of my own pistols for students to try after they qualify. I'm not 100% sold on only one type/brand of firearm, tho am kind of partial to .40 S&W. I don't tell everyone it's truly the Magic a Death Ray (MDR) caliber, tho will joke about it. I explain my own reasons for that being my preference, and am sure to explain that each caliber has pro's and con's and for the student to go out and find one they feel is best for their needs, just like with finding which sort of handgun fits their hands and needs best.
* get to know the folks at the state or county offices you'll have to deal with as best you can. It doesn't hurt to know their names when you have questions. Don't be adversarial with them, either, if you can at all avoid it.

Above all, be relaxed, patient and polite. Be firm and respectful. You'll have annoying students and those who might make you uncomfortable.

Those are all things that I do. Friends who've taken my class, two other instructors that I asked to audit me and my wife - teacher of 19 years - all have been brutally honest with me, which has helped me tweak my instruction, as well. If you've got folks like that in your life, ask them to allow you to run a mock class on how you intend to instruct.

That's all I've got. Hope that it helps.

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