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Old 08-22-2014, 05:18 PM   #1
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They call it rare here. I believe they are mistaken:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state

Bottom line: when you experience a high stress situation, your brain goes into a strange mode. Orel Herschiser went into a Fugue State after pitching a winning world series in 1988. the post game interview was bizarre: "I'm nobody, I'm nothing, I'm the scum of the earth"

Happened to me. 2 seat ultralight crash in 1985. ( 2 seat Spectrum Beaver trainer. You can't tell the story of crashing while strapped into the back of a 2 seat trainer Beaver with a 92 horse engine with a straight face. Standard single seat Beaver was 65 HP, so a 92 HP was a very hairy Beaver ) Pilot spun in from 400 feet AGL. recovery was by impact with the ground. I walked around weirded out for 12 hours. In shock at the fact I was still alive. if you could bottle it you could sell it as a street drug. It ended suddenly, like someone flipped a switch. I could feel the change happening.

Mel Gibsons anti Jew rant when pulled over after a traffic stop may have been a Fugue State.

and the point is:

If you get involved in a shooting, say nothing to anyone. do not make any statement to any person but your wife or lawyer for at least 24 hours. some people recommend 72 hours. you are not in control of your mind, ergo you are not in control of your mouth. anything you say can and will be held against you. you can say some truly strange things when you're thinking "Am I really alive? did that happen? how did I survive?"

one more thing they should have taught us in high school instead of wasting our time with quadratic equations.

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Even if you are not in a Fugue state, you will have all the adrenaline in your blood that your body can manufacture. With high adrenaline levels you are not going to be yourself. When an officer shoots someone he gets 24 hours to regain his composure before making a statement. You deserve the same 24 hours to get your ducks in a row.

Point out evidence that will help prove self defense, like the attackers weapon. Then take a ride in an ambulance to the ER.

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Fugue state or no you should exercise your right to silence.

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This is true if this is your first. But if you have had the experience several times it does not occur.

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Mel Gibsons anti Jew rant when pulled over after a traffic stop may have been a Fugue State.
Yes and it could be that Mel Gibson is a wan**r and doesn't like Jews.

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Fugue state or no you should exercise your right to silence.
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I'm not a fan of a very hairy beaver.

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the only information you need to give to police without a lawyer is your name rank and serial number...

you have the right to remain silent, but few have the ability.

invoking your rights is not an admission of guilt.

answers to police inquiries:

no sir, you do not have my permission to search.

i do not wish to speak with you about what happened without a lawyer present.

if you are involved in an incident please give descriptions of any goblins still at large

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"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability." --Ron White
i wouldnt credit him with it. i was using that long before he was doing stand up and i got it from a drill instructor
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