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Old 07-08-2012, 07:33 PM   #11
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Isn't it breaking a law to "impersonate an officer"?
It's not legally impersonating if it says "ccw permit holder" or something like it.

Now, if it says "(insert city) police department" then yeah, that's impersonating.
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I have but one word to describe anyone carry something like that- PATHETIC

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It's not legally impersonating if it says "ccw permit holder" or something like it.

Now, if it says "(insert city) police department" then yeah, that's impersonating.
if i am not mistaken, if by giving the impression or influencing the thought and allowing another person to believe that you are a LEO, it could be thought as also impersonating a LEO even if you never stated you were. different states may have different definitions of what is impersonating a LEO are though.

i agree with C3, just as owning a fire extinguisher doesn't make you a firefighter either. it is no diifferent than owning that fire extnguisher, just being prepared for in case ther was a fire.

my problem with it this, having a CC permit is suppose to be about CC, and if you have some silly badge that states you have a CC gun, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of carrying concealed?
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if i am not mistaken, if by giving the impression or influencing the thought and allowing another person to believe that you are a LEO, it could be thought as also impersonating a LEO even if you never stated you were. different states may have different definitions of what is impersonating a LEO are though.

i agree with C3, just as owning a fire extinguisher doesn't make you a firefighter either. it is no diifferent than owning that fire extnguisher, just being prepared for in case ther was a fire.

my problem with it this, having a CC permit is suppose to be about CC, and if you have some silly badge that states you have a CC gun, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of carrying concealed?
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if i am not mistaken, if by giving the impression or influencing the thought and allowing another person to believe that you are a LEO, it could be thought as also impersonating a LEO even if you never stated you were. different states may have different definitions of what is impersonating a LEO are though.

i agree with C3, just as owning a fire extinguisher doesn't make you a firefighter either. it is no diifferent than owning that fire extnguisher, just being prepared for in case ther was a fire.

my problem with it this, having a CC permit is suppose to be about CC, and if you have some silly badge that states you have a CC gun, doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of carrying concealed?
Yep. The turkey is doing the same as brandishing the gun.
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It's not legally impersonating if it says "ccw permit holder" or something like it.

Now, if it says "(insert city) police department" then yeah, that's impersonating.
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if i am not mistaken, if by giving the impression or influencing the thought and allowing another person to believe that you are a LEO, it could be thought as also impersonating a LEO even if you never stated you were. different states may have different definitions of what is impersonating a LEO are though.
I know in Illinois it would be illegal to use that badge in the manner stated in the OP.
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Whateva. Stolen valor act got shot down. Who REALLY knows what constitutes impersonation anymore? It's legal to impersonate military, so who cares if you impersonate a cop?

I don't like the idea of ccw or private investigator badges, I think they're stupid and more likely than not to get someone shot.

But... I still say if the badge says plain and clear, in the big black block letters I've seen them with in magazines... "CCW permit holder"....
and nothing about being a cop...
If I were stupid enough to want one of those overpriced pieces of tin, that's a fight I would argue out.

I OC here in Louisiana now, because I haven't yet gotten my ccw permit. Most people assume I'm a cop. Does that mean I'm impersonating?

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Whateva. Stolen valor act got shot down. Who REALLY knows what constitutes impersonation anymore? It's legal to impersonate military, so who cares if you impersonate a cop?

I don't like the idea of ccw or private investigator badges, I think they're stupid and more likely than not to get someone shot.

But... I still say if the badge says plain and clear, in the big black block letters I've seen them with in magazines... "CCW permit holder"....
and nothing about being a cop...
If I were stupid enough to want one of those overpriced pieces of tin, that's a fight I would argue out.

I OC here in Louisiana now, because I haven't yet gotten my ccw permit. Most people assume I'm a cop. Does that mean I'm impersonating?
Nah. Impersonating means intentionally trying to fool someone into believing you're a cop in order to influence their actions.
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Nah. Impersonating means intentionally trying to fool someone into believing you're a cop in order to influence their actions.
Very well. I would still argue the point if it said very clearly on the idiot badge that it was a CCW doohickey and I ended up in court over it. But I don't have one, nor do I want one. I think they cost like 50 bucks and considering a Louisiana permit is going to cost me around $200 at least... I'm a cheap ass...
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Whateva. Stolen valor act got shot down. Who REALLY knows what constitutes impersonation anymore? It's legal to impersonate military, so who cares if you impersonate a cop?

I don't like the idea of ccw or private investigator badges, I think they're stupid and more likely than not to get someone shot.

But... I still say if the badge says plain and clear, in the big black block letters I've seen them with in magazines... "CCW permit holder"....
and nothing about being a cop...
If I were stupid enough to want one of those overpriced pieces of tin, that's a fight I would argue out.

I OC here in Louisiana now, because I haven't yet gotten my ccw permit. Most people assume I'm a cop. Does that mean I'm impersonating?
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Nah. Impersonating means intentionally trying to fool someone into believing you're a cop in order to influence their actions.
in a state that has OC, if i saw you carrying no i wouldn't assume that. but in a state with CC only and i saw you OC, i could make the assumption you were LE. i think simply put as AIKIJUTSU has said intent to lead someone to believe that you are a LEO is impersonating one. i am sure that different states may have different definitions and classing it as whether a felony or misdemeanor.
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