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Old 10-27-2008, 07:09 PM   #11
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Have to say I agree completely with Glock30Owner .

First just standing on principal , the Founders didn't considered making law abiding citizens jump through hoops with "Training classes" and Licenses and fees left and right made for a Right to Keep and Bear Arms , Please they could have created such things if it was their intent of the Amendment .

Second this nonsense that an armed person has to be either A) a cop , B) a Soldier or , C) a Criminal is total BS and nothing more than thought control through a life of Sociali$t conditioning .

People love to go on and on about the surprise effect being so great but what about the old Peace by Superior Armament and firepower "Whatever that is" Tell me honestly that when you're in a Cabelas , BassPro or even Walmarts sporting goods section when they're busy you think you're the only person who would open carry if allowed to do so ?

What do you think a Criminals reaction will be when he goes into a Mall that has a popular gun/sporting goods store and he see's dozens of men and women all "Heeled" as the love to say in the movies .

Do you think he's going to be thinking how glad he and his one partner are to know who to target or do you think perhaps they'll be thinking it's time to get the hell out of there and go look for a softer "Target" ?

The latter would be my guess .

All forcing CCW only is doing is playing into the hands of those that live by ignorance and insist that guns are bad like some kind of sick Porno .

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You know what I couldn't give a rats rear end what they frown on .

I frown on paying taxes that employ the LEO's and the judges and the jailers and the Politicians that create useless laws or don't enforce the good ones and allowed our streets to have filled up with the millions of criminal scum that it has .

Catch and convict a Child/Sex offenders/molesters and they send the trash to jail for just a few years and then allow them back out to do it again and dare to call their creation of the Sex offenders lists a Victory for children's and womens safety . Order LEO's to NOT enforce our immigrations laws and allow millions of criminals in our country or the LEO's that just ignore an obvious illegal when they haven't been given such an order .

Calling serving as little as 5-7 years a Life Sentence for convicted murders .

Same nonsense with Rapists won't keep them in jail but hey let's make sure every community has enough Rape crisis counselors for the future victims we know there will be with their soft on crime stance .

If they didn't want people to demand their Rights then they never should have allowed the problems to escalate as they have the last several decades .
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Interesting discussion, in my state, PA, open carry is legal, but not often exercised. I am of the opinion, if the general public got used to seeing the general public with a firearm, the paranoia would ease.

The real question is how to transition from concealed carry to open carry. Another of my beliefs is if the general public knew how many folks are walking about with a handgun, they would flip.

The other part of the equation is the fact that the 'honestly armed' probably provide an unseen service to everyone. The bad guys have to hope, guess, gamble, or pray the next victim won't be capable of self preservation. The more that are, providing proof via open or concealed carry, the tougher life gets as a bad guy.

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More often than not I do CCW but I do occasionally open carry. It is legal in my State with a carry permit. With that said, I do have to deal with the occasional uninformed Liberal chicken **** that calls law enforcement. Luckily I know 99% of the LEO's in my town and all are advocates of our 2nd amendment rights. When the LEO's show up they attempt to educate the individual and I try to move on with a positive attitude concerning the situation. Frustrating...

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I think we would all be surprized to see how many concealed carriers are out there.

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I think we would all be surprized to see how many concealed carriers are out there.
Exactly, and that is usually one of the points I try to get through to people. Wouldn't you rather see the weapon?... Then the next question I ask is How many people do you think are carrying concealed as we speak around you? I always get that DDDUUUURRRRRRRRR Look...lol. Oh Boy. Oh well.
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hell, i'd like open carry just so i could drool over the nice guns that some people carry...

never see it in NY.. but my buddy does CCW, has a little gun in his pocket.. never knew till he pulled it out to show me... so i'm betting every person knows atleast ONE person that CCW's... i'm sure if there was a day that every CCW person had 2 wear a bright orange hat, there'd be a lot of orange around... makes me feel safer, im not 21, but when i get to be, i am getting my permit.

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Here in Indiana you can open carry. I will start open carry when it warms up here. I decided to open carry after it saved a friends life.

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Here in Indiana you can open carry. I will start open carry when it warms up here. I decided to open carry after it saved a friends life.
You can't just post something like that with out details. Please tell us how open carrying saved your friend's life. I'm sure many people would be interested in that.
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Here in Indiana you can open carry. I will start open carry when it warms up here. I decided to open carry after it saved a friends life.
There is a good chance that Texas will go with open carry in 2009.

Our Gov. and his constituents are pro-gun. Even though I am licensed to CCW, I haven't decided "if" I would actually open carry regularly... I sort of enjoy the stealth of CCW.
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hell, i'd like open carry just so i could drool over the nice guns that some people carry...

never see it in NY.. but my buddy does CCW, has a little gun in his pocket.. never knew till he pulled it out to show me... so i'm betting every person knows atleast ONE person that CCW's... i'm sure if there was a day that every CCW person had 2 wear a bright orange hat, there'd be a lot of orange around... makes me feel safer, im not 21, but when i get to be, i am getting my permit.
When you consider that: there are 6.7 guns for every man. woman, & child in the USA, there is a good chance that at least one in twelve CCW. Unfortunately, there are some illegal CCW's out there too. The good news is, that crimes committed by Legal CCW's is less than 1/10th of 1%. At least in Texas anyway.

Now, your friend (the one that showed you his gun) technically broke the law, even "if" he is a legal CCW. He could lose his license for simply showing his weapon to you, or anyone else for that matter.
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