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Old 04-23-2014, 02:08 AM   #191
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how is me telling an officer going to change anything other than now he knows im carrying,if i was a bad guy would i tell him?
your logic makes no sence at all, im not a bad guy and my firearm will not leave its holster,so by me telling him what would change?
we still have some rights and i choose to excercise them,if i have bad intentions well the officer will find out but sence i dont thats all that matters.
also is the officer than going to tell me what and where his concealed backup firearm is or does it matter?
Thank you for proving my point so well!!!
"if I were a bad guy would I tell him", NO YOU WOULD NOT! Are you a 'good guy' or a 'bad guy'??? If you are good guy why are you afraid to say so???? So when the officer is 'surprised' by the sight of your 'undeclared' weapon and he treats you as a 'bad guy' don't say you were not warned by this OLD cop!!!
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Thank you for proving my point so well!!!
"if I were a bad guy would I tell him", NO YOU WOULD NOT! Are you a 'good guy' or a 'bad guy'??? If you are good guy why are you afraid to say so???? So when the officer is 'surprised' by the sight of your 'undeclared' weapon and he treats you as a 'bad guy' don't say you were not warned by this OLD cop!!!
First and foremost I am not afraid and second it is a CONCEALED weapon it will not be seen.
I have had contact with Leo's and am not worried about exposing anything.
And another thing my id will speak for it's self so thanks for the warning but I do not need it.
Also again I still have some RIGHTS and will choose to excersice them, I live in California and rights are rare here so in not giving them up lightly.
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First and foremost I am not afraid and second it is a CONCEALED weapon it will not be seen.
I have had contact with Leo's and am not worried about exposing anything.
And another thing my id will speak for it's self so thanks for the warning but I do not need it.
Also again I still have some RIGHTS and will choose to excersice them, I live in California and rights are rare here so in not giving them up lightly.
Bingo... Concealed means concealed and I think that fact is getting lost here.

Now... If my 1911 were sitting on the seat next to me, I'd probably see the wisdom in Jim's advice but out of sight is out of mind.

All that said, I did declare earlier that I'm going to hand over my CHL for the first time in 20 years at my next traffic stop. If it gets me out of a ticket, as many of our resident LEO's have claimed, I'll keep doing it.

In my view, if an officers comfort is worth passing on a citation, then sure, I'll play alone, as long as there's a little something in it for number 1.

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First and foremost I am not afraid and second it is a CONCEALED weapon it will not be seen.
I have had contact with Leo's and am not worried about exposing anything.
And another thing my id will speak for it's self so thanks for the warning but I do not need it.
Also again I still have some RIGHTS and will choose to excersice them, I live in California and rights are rare here so in not giving them up lightly.
I know you 'kids' know it all! Us old farts are idiots. When you are pronged out with a foot on your neck and gun screwed in your ear remember this conversation. I hope your arrogant attitude don't cost you and your family to dearly!
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[QUOTE=Tackleberry1;1564518]Bingo... Concealed means concealed and I think that fact is getting lost here.

Now... If my 1911 were sitting on the seat next to me, I'd probably see the wisdom in Jim's advice but out of sight is out of mind.

All that said, I did declare earlier that I'm going to hand over my CHL for the first time in 20 years at my next traffic stop. If it gets me out of a ticket, as many of our resident LEO's have claimed, I'll keep doing it.

In my view, if an officers comfort is worth passing on a citation, then sure, I'll play alone, as long as there's a little something in it for number


I have a holster I use to keep my pistol between my seats when I work out in the field,this is when I would declare my ccw because it would be visible and I definetly would not grab for my pistol If I were to be stopped other than that no need .

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I know you 'kids' know it all! Us old farts are idiots. When you are pronged out with a foot on your neck and gun screwed in your ear remember this conversation. I hope your arrogant attitude don't cost you and your family to dearly!
Haha arrogant ? I'm arrogant for having rights ?
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I know you 'kids' know it all! Us old farts are idiots. When you are pronged out with a foot on your neck and gun screwed in your ear remember this conversation. I hope your arrogant attitude don't cost you and your family to dearly!
Wow, just wow

If the law does not require disclosure but you feel safer is someone does disclose, then maybe it's time for a new career. Hell, with that threat, maybe it's past time for a new career.
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Wow, just wow

If the law does not require disclosure but you feel safer is someone does disclose, then maybe it's time for a new career. Hell, with that threat, maybe it's past time for a new career.
+100 you said it best i was at a loss for words after that last comment.
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I can say I have probably been 'stopped' as many, if not more, times than most by the cops. That is why I said I can relate to BOTH sides of this argument/discussion.
But how many of those who have been 'stopped' can say they have been on the 'other side' of this discussion???
Closest I've been is making a casino count down all its money while we watched or watching them count their drop from inside the count room, so no, I've never had to pull someone's car over for speeding, but I have had a job that involved enforcement of state laws, codes, regulations-not my favorite job so far. I did my best to make the process as painless as possible for all parties involved while meeting the requirements of the audit procedures.
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