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12-15-2011, 09:34 PM
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Do I need to carry a CCP to carry a knife?
Does carrying something like a utility/pocket/folding knife count as a "concealed weapon" and would I need to carry a permit for it to have it on me? This is in Michigan. There seems to be a lot of gray area concerning knives.
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12-15-2011, 10:25 PM
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Your best bet is if someone familiar with your states laws chimes in. I think in my state, as long as the blade isn't over a certain length it's all good without a permit.
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12-15-2011, 10:54 PM
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Weapons laws, like he just said up there, vary state to state.
In GENERAL, a folding knife that has a blade less than 3 inches, does not have a spring opener, etc, is considered an ordinary tool. Don't try to take one into a courthouse or jail, though- and not on an airplane.
SOME states have their own quirks. Mass considers a double edged knife to be an "assault knife". A butterfly (balisong) knife in Vegas is a felony. Virginia considers a non-folding knife to be a "dirk".
A Swiss Army knife or Boy Scout sized knife is not likely to be a legal problem, but we are not likely to be lawyers, either. (Well, we think there ARE one or two around here, but they keep a low profile  )
DO check with your local authorities.
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12-15-2011, 11:07 PM
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This is about all I've been able to dig up and I've been searching for hours.
Michigan -750.226... Carrying with unlawful intent
Any person who, with intent to use the same unlawfully
against the person of another, goes armed with a pistol
or other firearm or dagger, dirk, razor, stiletto, or
knife having a blade over 3 inches in length, or any
other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument, shall
be guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in
the state prison for not more than 5 years or by a fine
of not more than 2,500 dollars.
- 750.226a. Pocket knife opened by mechanical device...
Any person who shall sell or offer to sell, or
any person who shall have in his possession any knife
having the appearance of a pocket knife, the blade or
blades of which can be opened by a flick of a button,
pressure on a handle or other mechanical contrivance shall
be guilty of a misdemeanor... [Also, concealed carry may
be charged as a felony under 750.227.] The provisions of
this section [750.226a] shall not apply to any one-armed
person carrying a knife on his person in connection with
his living requirements.
- 750.227. (1) A person shall not carry a dagger, dirk,
stiletto, a double-edged nonfolding stabbing instrument of
any length, or any dangerous weapon, except a hunting
knife adapted and carried as such, concealed on or about
his or her person, or whether concealed or otherwise in
any vehicle... except in his or her dwelling house [or]
place of business... (3) A person who violates this
section is guilty of a felony...
Its incredibly vague. basically I've interpreted it to say, that as long as I don't have any criminal intent to inflict bodily harm on anyone with the "weapon", I can carry any size blade I want, but its up to the LEO to determine what my intent was, and its my word against his  , unless of course the blade is for hunting, in which case I'd have to prove the I was in fact, hunting, or heading to or from my hunting location.
But yes, I will talk to the one of the local authorities as well and try to get some detail.
Last edited by gmaster456; 12-15-2011 at 11:10 PM.
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12-15-2011, 11:15 PM
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Sounds to me like I would carry a normal pocket knife with a blade less then 3 inches.
Hint, there are some tactical folders in that size.
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12-15-2011, 11:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trip286
Sounds to me like I would carry a normal pocket knife with a blade less then 3 inches.
Hint, there are some tactical folders in that size.
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plus one. ...also make sure its razor sharp. dull knives wont help
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12-15-2011, 11:47 PM
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Hey, dull knives make great screw drivers.
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I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillement of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause, and lies exhausted on the field of battle... Victorious.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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12-16-2011, 03:06 PM
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Quote:
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Hey, dull knives make great screw drivers.
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Now the trick is to get a dull heavy knife, I had just a cheap knife that weighed what felt like 2 lbs but it was under 1 had a dull but thick blade. Was the best improvised hammer/screwdriver/crowbar/paperweight but not such a great knife.
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12-16-2011, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gmaster456
This is about all I've been able to dig up and I've been searching for hours.
Michigan -750.226... Carrying with unlawful intent
Any person who, with intent to use the same unlawfully
against the person of another, goes armed with a pistol
or other firearm or dagger, dirk, razor, stiletto, or
knife having a blade over 3 inches in length, or any
other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument, shall
be guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in
the state prison for not more than 5 years or by a fine
of not more than 2,500 dollars.
- 750.226a. Pocket knife opened by mechanical device...
Any person who shall sell or offer to sell, or
any person who shall have in his possession any knife
having the appearance of a pocket knife, the blade or
blades of which can be opened by a flick of a button,
pressure on a handle or other mechanical contrivance shall
be guilty of a misdemeanor... [Also, concealed carry may
be charged as a felony under 750.227.] The provisions of
this section [750.226a] shall not apply to any one-armed
person carrying a knife on his person in connection with
his living requirements.
- 750.227. (1) A person shall not carry a dagger, dirk,
stiletto, a double-edged nonfolding stabbing instrument of
any length, or any dangerous weapon, except a hunting
knife adapted and carried as such, concealed on or about
his or her person, or whether concealed or otherwise in
any vehicle... except in his or her dwelling house [or]
place of business... (3) A person who violates this
section is guilty of a felony...
Its incredibly vague. basically I've interpreted it to say, that as long as I don't have any criminal intent to inflict bodily harm on anyone with the "weapon", I can carry any size blade I want, but its up to the LEO to determine what my intent was, and its my word against his , unless of course the blade is for hunting, in which case I'd have to prove the I was in fact, hunting, or heading to or from my hunting location.
But yes, I will talk to the one of the local authorities as well and try to get some detail. |
Seems pretty clear to me -Carry a plain pocket knife with a blade no longer than 3" & dont carry it with the intent to stick someone 
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