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Old 08-08-2014, 01:57 AM   #21
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That's what happens when you rely on a memory from forty years. Mr. Jordan was a proponent of a well placed first shot.
Thus we are reminded not to obsess with "groups" and focus more on the first shot speed and placement. Perhaps second.
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[QUOTE=AmPaTerry;1615772, but why on earth take chances?

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Carrying all of that will get you the chance to be detained and questioned by any reasonable LEO just doing his job. Yes, it's good to be prepared, but when the "gun haters" talk about the obsessions of those of us who own and carry guns, it's you that they describe. I hope your OCD doesn't get you in trouble.

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Also check the inside flap of the front jacket, which begins:



"Be first or be dead ... there is no second place winner in a gun fight!

I do not disagree, nor am I critical of your method. Only wanted to make a point.
I live next to Chicago and do not go many places there. I would need the black rifle, riot gun, and a double stack 9mm.
We both agree that Bill Jordan was the real deal.
Indeed we do!

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Thus we are reminded not to obsess with "groups" and focus more on the first shot speed and placement. Perhaps second.
Jordan goes WAY beyond second. In this book, "No Second Place Winner", he speaks of those that, once wounded, give up the fight and sometimes just lay down and die. He urges the need to KEEP SHOOTING, not quit.

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Carrying all of that will get you the chance to be detained and questioned by any reasonable LEO just doing his job. Yes, it's good to be prepared, but when the "gun haters" talk about the obsessions of those of us who own and carry guns, it's you that they describe. I hope your OCD doesn't get you in trouble.
I never have more than one exposed, and usually all are concealed. No 'reasonable LEO' is going to be aware of what I am carrying unless I am ALREADY detained, in which case the number of weapons does not CAUSE the detainment. Sure, a cop with a good eye can observe my movements long enough to spot the IWB carry, but no way to ever notice the BUG or the BUBUG if I am carrying them.
And, like I already said, it was a COP that instructed our firearms class for CCW here, and both he and his assistant instructor carried and encouraged the carry of multiple weapons as a safety precaution. Both were more heavily armed than I ever am, actually. I live in Tennessee, not in New York City.
But if being well armed means we have OCD, it must be a common Southern disorder -
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Mr. Jordan also said there is "No Second Place Winner". His reference is to a second shot, not a second firearm.
I know, that's why I paraphrased Mr. Jordan's original statement regarding revolver capacity, "If six shots can't do the job, six more won't help."
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I hope I never live anywhere that I feel compelled to carry that much hardware.

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Bill Jordan did emphasize the importance of the first shot.
But he did NOT feel that one shot was enough.
He stressed that you work to put the first shot on target, so the "rest of the burst" would also be on target. He was speaking of those quick shooters that fire fast, see where the bullet hits, correct and fire again. He was NOT advocating to just shoot once.

Don't believe me.
Turn to page 98 of his book, start with the last paragraph at the bottom and continue to page 99.

If you find something in No Second Place Winner contrary to that, please reference the page you found it on.

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I hope I never live anywhere that I feel compelled to carry that much hardware.
The second amendment gives us the freedom to "bear arms".
No compelling at all, merely freedom.

In return, I hope none of you ever finds yourself at the mercy of a BG because you placed all of your faith in the flawless function of a single weapon.
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am pa Why not try to Pick one design or at least the same function and feel and stay with it. No t asingle action with external safety and or striker fired Glock . Pick one and Stay with it for CC . If you cc a glock Get a 380 version if you just gota have a bug on ya too. Use the 1911 for a range home gun and dump the fumble finger wittle handgun and buy a mustang to go with it for cc . Best to become very good with one type of handgun for carry so under a high stress moment your not fumbling with control issues that could get you hurt. That's coming from a guy with 28 years of CC owning 11 different brands but 1 brand only for CC with one type of function but in 3 sizes for what ever is best for the need . I have handguns for hunting, some for fun. Some just because !! OCD has nothing to do with the south. Just a personal head game in general.

Other wise , your live and your problems. I would bet IF you hunted you would carry a back up weapon like a rifle over each shoulder. HA HA hehe

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LOL!
No, but when I hunted I did carry a back up pistol; Super Blackhawk in .44 mag, '03 rifle. But that was in Alaska; no need for that kind of firepower down here.

My ideal BUG would be a Charter Arms Pit Bull in 9mm. Reviews said it loads most easily from a 9mm magazine, so would be the perfect companion to my Glock, since the only time I would ever need it is if the Glock failed, in which case I would have the magazine to feed the little guy from.

I carry the Glock for pure firepower. I would like a wheelgun for backup due to the decreasing likelihood of a failure with that action. But can't find the pit-bull, so went with the Ruger. My Smith Chiefs Special is a bit big for a BUG.

The Cobra?
More of a toy than a serious defense arm. What some folks call a "belly gun". I do not routinely carry it, actually, but have upon occasion.

Confusion under stress?
Can't happen, because the Glock is PRIMARY CCW, and it is point and squeeze.
The BUG Ruger is the same; point and squeeze.

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