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Old 03-02-2014, 10:11 PM   #71
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It is a life changing experience to be in the position of deciding whether or not to "pull the trigger". I held a loaded 45 on a person who challenged me and I could have pulled the trigger and ended the threat, as it was a military situation. I would have been OK legally. Fortunately I didn't have to and we all lived through it, but it was scary and quick.

We all think we know what we would do under circumstances we think might happen. Trouble is the threats most often come from people who are not rational (on drugs, alcohol, or just plain nuts), and too often force (deadly) is the only way of stopping them. Reality is that shooting at an enemy soldier several hundred yards away is totally different than facing a human threat inside of 100 inches. Not different to the bodies and bullets, but to the survivors.

My only hope is that if the time comes for me to decide that I'm quicker and better than he is. That's why we practice (or should practice).
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Shoot to stop a threat.
Never in revenge.
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As a LEO, how do you feel about that statement?
It sucks and shows where the country is heading.
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Did it before, at people I really didn't have anything against, (at first). To protect myself and my loved ones? In a word, yes.
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What many people forget is that laws are a deterrent to crime, not a protection from crime. Therefore, those that uphold the law should also be viewed as deterrents, not protection.
That is incorrect . The law is not there in order to deter anyone from anything. If a law deters that is just a bonus.

The purpose of law is to be a vehicle, we as a society use to provide agreed upon punishment that can be meted to some one who violates a societal norm. It also defines actions that violate what we agree upon through legislation as being a detriment.

Police patroling cities and highways are a deterrent, law abiding citizens carrying firearms are a deterrent, the law itself is not a deterrent.
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the law itself is not a deterrent.

I think this is right. I think that the possible chance of punishment for many people IS THE DETERRENT.

I would likely be running over the speed limit if there were no punishment.

There are other things, however, that I will not do... Law, Punishment or not.
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I think this is right. I think that the possible chance of punishment for many people IS THE DETERRENT.
I would likely be running over the speed limit if there were no punishment.
There are other things, however, that I will not do... Law, Punishment or not.
I agree. However, the "many people" of whom you speak are the law abiding. Criminals don't think that way.
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Working a few years in State prisons taught me one thing. Criminals don't fear laws, LEO's, the courts nor do they fear prison. The one thing they do fear is armed law abiding citizens. They understand that citizens are not there to arrest them. We are there to protect ourselves and our families.
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Working a few years in State prisons taught me one thing. Criminals don't fear laws, LEO's, the courts nor do they fear prison. The one thing they do fear is armed law abiding citizens. They understand that citizens are not there to arrest them. We are there to protect ourselves and our families.
And those are just the ones who got caught.
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Sadly, like a few others here, I have had to operate weapons on defense of my country. You always have the question in your head if you did the right thing afterwards. Some people deal with it by becoming drunks or junkies, others to to "Support Groups" and still can't talk about it. I really feel for you folks in LE, because you have to deal with the same stuff military personnel have to with this, even if the creator of the situation is different, the outcome is the same. You feel sad or depressed, because no one wants to waste anyone, and you have to live with it until you draw your last breath...


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