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Old 01-03-2014, 09:43 AM   #41
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Who in their right mind relies on 911 to save their bacon?

I believe the proper term for these people is "Liberal".
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I believe the proper term for these people is "Liberal".
.....or 'victim'

in self defense situations, about the most you can hope for from the police is that they draw a pretty chalk outline..........

not a knock in any way on LEOs. They just can't be everywhere at once
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And, let's not forget, they are there to collect evidence. They are not there to decide whether you were in the right or not. Go back and check some of the threads relating to recommended actions immediately after you have fired your weapon in self defense.
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There is case law (I can't find it right now) that states the police have no duty to save you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

There are other cases where the supreme court has ruled the police are not responsible for your safety no matter how negligent their actions were. There is one case were a woman was on the roof screaming for officers in her yard to save her from a rapist. The officers just drove off. The door was wide open. The police didn't bother to look in the house or secure the door despite her repeated 911 calls.
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There is case law (I can't find it right now) that states the police have no duty to save you.
You are correct. The courts have ruled the police have no obligation to respond to any request for service or assistance, BUT if they do respond and contact the RP (form a relationship) they have a obligation to see to the safety of the RP.
This stemmed from a case involving eight nurses in Chicago (many years ago) who called numerous times for assistance while being held against their will in their apartment and repeatedly rapped and the calls were 'lost'.
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i feel i am better equipped and motivated to protect myself and my loved one from attack. also the degree of mercy would be much higher from LE than from me.
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My parents live in a pretty rural area, nearest neighbor is 3/4 of a mile. Over the years they have made friends of some of the sheriffs deputies. There is an oil well road about 1/4 mile from their house that starts out smooth and as you rounded a corner the tire ruts got very deep very fast. Lifted 4wheel drives knew they could "lose" the deputies on this road. More than once we had a deputy on our porch in the middle of the night "too embarrassed to call this in can you pull me out?". We always did with a smile. Fast forward 25 years, Mom calls the sheriffs dept and says "we are leaving for the winter can you send someone by now and then to keep an eye on the place?" They do and I get phone calls asking me if I have been over to check on the place because there are tire tracks in the snow on their driveway.

I posted all of that to illustrate this. My parents have a great relationship with the sheriffs office but they have been told by these deputies that they have helped that the very best response time they could expect was 12 minutes and that 20 minutes would be the way to bet. A whole lot of bad sh!t can happen in 20 minutes, especially with no neighbors to run to.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

There are other cases where the supreme court has ruled the police are not responsible for your safety no matter how negligent their actions were. There is one case were a woman was on the roof screaming for officers in her yard to save her from a rapist. The officers just drove off. The door was wide open. The police didn't bother to look in the house or secure the door despite her repeated 911 calls.
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You are correct. The courts have ruled the police have no obligation to respond to any request for service or assistance, BUT if they do respond and contact the RP (form a relationship) they have a obligation to see to the safety of the RP.
This stemmed from a case involving eight nurses in Chicago (many years ago) who called numerous times for assistance while being held against their will in their apartment and repeatedly rapped and the calls were 'lost'.
This is unreal and is a very old case. I wonder if it occurred today if the outcome would be any different. Then they (some LEO's) and Judge's wonder why we want to carry guns and protect ourselves?
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.....or 'victim'

in self defense situations, about the most you can hope for from the police is that they draw a pretty chalk outline..........

not a knock in any way on LEOs. They just can't be everywhere at once
You are 100% correct and ANY LEO who tries to tell folks otherwise is an IDIOT, and/or a police administrator in the large metro department.
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My answer: Yes, and God willing, yes.

Now for my question. If I am willing to lay down my own life for those I love, what in the name of all that is Holy would make anyone think that I would not kill for them?

'nuff said.
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