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Old 09-15-2013, 04:23 PM   #21
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I really don't understand why you want to carry a firearm. In close quarters your deadly martial arts training would be better suited.
Yes in close quarters my martial arts training offers me enough defense that I don't need a firearm. I would rather avoid being that close if possible. In most cases just letting them know you are armed is enough deterrent, if it isn't I would rather stop them there then let it get close to me.

Why do so many people carry a knife AND a gun? Isn't the gun enough?

Different tactics for different situations.
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That first comment reminds me a lot about the argument most gun grabbers use to justify banning guns. The fact is for a martial artist it is incredibly easy to kill someone. The only real difference is range. Plus martial arts is a dark more dedicated study in morals and safety then any concealed carry class. Martial arts is a lifelong study in proper defense and when to use those defenses while a concealed carry class is a few weeks? Maybe a few months.

I agree that the legal aspect is a bonus, but I don't feel I should pay and use up the very little free time I have on something that is available publicly for free.
Yes a class might be a few hours or weeks, but it starts your foundation of conceal carry. Then you can work off of that foundation by training, training, and training. I know for sure that your martial arts you started with a foundation and you have kept taking classes and practicing!!! Also, I know for sure that you didn't know all the martial arts that you have learned from your CLASSES or TRAINING before taking these CLASSES. I would still take classes now if I found one that I liked.
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Yes a class might be a few hours or weeks, but it starts your foundation of conceal carry. Then you can work off of that foundation by training, training, and training. I know for sure that your martial arts you started with a foundation and you have kept taking classes and practicing!!! Also, I know for sure that you didn't know all the martial arts that you have learned from your CLASSES or TRAINING before taking these CLASSES. I would still take classes now if I found one that I liked.
I'm not saying that the concealed carry classes are useless. I fully understand what it takes to be proficient in something.

I'm saying that I don't have the time for it and feel that my experience with martial arts and the man gun safety course I HAVE taken give me a solid foundation, in my opinion. If y'all were to give me a reason to take the class I COULD make the time, but it would cost me a lot( something like $400 a day). So far nobody has given me a reason that makes the benefits out weigh the costs.
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I'm not saying that the concealed carry classes are useless. I fully understand what it takes to be proficient in something.

I'm saying that I don't have the time for it and feel that my experience with martial arts and the man gun safety course I HAVE taken give me a solid foundation, in my opinion. If y'all were to give me a reason to take the class I COULD make the time, but it would cost me a lot( something like $400 a day). So far nobody has given me a reason that makes the benefits out weigh the costs.
Why did you start taking martial arts classes? Do they have classes on the weekends if you don't have to work on the weekends.
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Why did you start taking martial arts classes? Do they have classes on the weekends if you don't have to work on the weekends.
I took classes for a long time, but had to stop for work and to spend time with my wife and daughter. I still practice with my brother when we get the chance. I wish I had the time to go, but I just don't.
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I'm not saying that the concealed carry classes are useless. I fully understand what it takes to be proficient in something.

I'm saying that I don't have the time for it and feel that my experience with martial arts and the man gun safety course I HAVE taken give me a solid foundation, in my opinion. If y'all were to give me a reason to take the class I COULD make the time, but it would cost me a lot( something like $400 a day). So far nobody has given me a reason that makes the benefits out weigh the costs.
how about that it could save you a lot of needless headaches legally if you were ever in position that you had to use a firearm? how about keeping you from saying or doing something that could bite you in the butt because you didn't know any better?

yes, you can look up all the state laws on the internet and peruse them at your leisure at any time. but i can tell you i can do the same thing, but because i'm not a lawyer, some of them are quite confusing. knowing the laws are one thing, but what about how they directly apply to you may be different.
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[QUOTE=orangello;1366392] he has that enhanced carry permit

what is that..................?

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how about that it could save you a lot of needless headaches legally if you were ever in position that you had to use a firearm? how about keeping you from saying or doing something that could bite you in the butt because you didn't know any better?

yes, you can look up all the state laws on the internet and peruse them at your leisure at any time. but i can tell you i can do the same thing, but because i'm not a lawyer, some of them are quite confusing. knowing the laws are one thing, but what about how they directly apply to you may be different.
I'll agree that this is something I would get out of it, I don't feel it really out weighs the costs at this time. In the near future I will look into it, but for now I'll wait.

An enhanced permit allows you to carry into places you normally wouldn't be able to.
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I'm not saying that you are a danger to yourself, your family, and small animals if you do not take a concealed carry class. What I am saying and what many of this forum are saying, is there is a minimum threshold of training that you should that all who carry on a regular basis should avail themselves of if available.

Something else to keep in mind... I have been active on this forum for over three years. You are the first person I can remember who objected to more training.

I have been a firearms owner for 18 years. I have taken many classes. Earlier this spring, I took another NRA basic pistol class with my wife. I always learn something new no matter how many times I've been through the material. Every time I reach in my pocket and feel my pistol, I am reminded that I am carrying life and death in my hands. That thought is sobering to me, and I want as much training as I can get.

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Carrying without a permit may be illegal in your state, almost sure concealing requires a permit. Unless on private property but you probably have to go to where the equipment is broke down.
Btw the average mugger, robber isn't going to hold up a mechanic, maybe if he ran a register. Most hit sure things, stores with cash..

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