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genesaika 09-09-2013 09:05 PM

Concealed carry rigs and my concerns at work
 
OK so I mentioned carrying at work in a thread today and got more help then I expected, so I figured why not make a thread on the subject. So here I am!

First off my gun, or future gun as it is. I will be getting a Beretta px4 full size. I did a lot of research and didn't find many real problems with it and I handled it in a store recently and loved how it felt and the weight. Unfortunately I haven't shot one, only because I just found a place that claims to rent then last week, haven't called to confirm for monetary reasons. I'm pretty set on it though. I decided on a full size because the compacts felt awkward, tiny, and just wrong in my hands. This could be because I'm fairly new to handguns, but that's how I felt and I don't buy something unless I'm comfortable with it.

I'm a heavy equipment mechanic which involves getting into the dirt, sand, grease, and often tight or awkward positions (upside down was mentioned). I have my concerns about safety in these conditions while carrying and would like some opinions.

Right now I'm looking at a blackhawk serpa cqc holster with the shoulder rig for it, maybe even a magazine and flashlight on the weak hand side. I figure the hard holster will help with accidental discharges and damage, plus the lock seems accessible and strong. The shoulder rig attaches to the belt for added security in those odd positions and it should keep things fairly close to me for getting in and out of those spots. I would wear 5.11 tactical carry shirts because they are well made and allow easy access to a shoulder holster, also they don't stain from grease!

The holster seems pretty versatile as well, so I could probably open carry on my belt while hunting or if I felt like it for some reason ( I'll warn my wife to hit me on the head if I'm not hunting lol), but can they be worn IWB? I looked at the website for an option and didn't find one. Being on a budget I'd rather only buy one holster, though I am looking at a foxx IWB.

Of course if there is anything you feel I should consider please tell me.

Edit: I forgot to mention, on particularly nasty jobs I would probably just leave the gun in the truck since it wouldn't do me much good inside of a machine anyways.

orangello 09-09-2013 09:13 PM

Don't forget what sweat will do to your firearm. You will want to break it down for cleaning pretty regularly and give it a wipe down on an even more regular basis.

genesaika 09-09-2013 09:20 PM

Good point I'll have to see how it goes, might be a once or twice a week thing. Hopefully it's not daily, but I could manage lol.

orangello 09-09-2013 09:30 PM

I have a relative in heavy equipment repair; he has that enhanced carry permit and carries daily. I'm not 100%, but I am under the impression that his firearm goes in the truck if he is to be working under something for a while, for the sake of keeping the pistol debris-free.

bwraven 09-15-2013 04:45 AM

I have a few Blackhawk SERPA's and am very impressed with with their retention capabilities and ease of drawing and re-holstering.

I recommend against shoulder holster rigs to my students as you inevitably cover yourself and anyone behind or beside you when you draw your firearm.

SERPA holsters are not designed to be used IWB. You would be unable to operate the release mechanism.

nitestalker 09-15-2013 05:19 AM

From your comments you are not familiar with handguns or the responsibility of being armed. If you have not yet done so take a course in concealed carry.:)

Axxe55 09-15-2013 06:37 AM

i work and have worked in the same field of repairing and maintaining equipment for many years now. there is no way i would carry while doing that type of work. the pistol regardless of what holster you had would always fine a way to be in the way.

climbing and crawling all over equipment, laying down on creepers and such would not be very comfortable with a pistol being carried.

personally i have never had a piece of equipment attack me or feel the need for a pistol when working on them. well maybe a few times!

AR10 09-15-2013 11:01 AM

I own your choice in a gun, as well as a few others (retired FFL ) and I would be concerned about fouling that gun with chemicals and grime.

You don't eat corn cut off the cob with a soup spoon, or suck up mashed potatoes and gravey through a straw. Why carry your favorite gun into somewhere that is inappropriate?

Get a small pocket pistol like a Rugar LCP , put it in a pocket holster and a zip lock bag and go about your business. Possibly put the gun and bag inside holster for better retention in your pocket.

LCP comes in a polished chrome version that might help fight corrosion. I own one.

You will not find a smaller, more reliable pistol.

genesaika 09-15-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitestalker (Post 1372373)
From your comments you are not familiar with handguns or the responsibility of being armed. If you have not yet done so take a course in concealed carry.:)

I feel taking a concealed carry class would be rather redundant. I'm rather well trained in multiple martial arts, which I believe teach roughly the same thing, and it's all common sense, Also basic gun safety covers a bit too.

I am not very familiar with handguns, but I have shot many. When I say I'm not familiar with them I mean I haven't had the chance to shoot them anywhere near as often as I would like. This will be remedied before I even think about getting a ccw permit.

I have thought very seriously about not carrying at work and I am torn. Most of my work is in New Orleans and I would rather be armed there, but I Also know that mechanic work makes carrying a much more difficult prospect, which is why I posted the question.

As far as the shoulder holster being sub optimal, yes I realize that it puts the firearm in a position that is not as safe as on a hip and it is impossible to not sweep people on your weak side when you draw. It is the only safe way I have come up with to carry a firearm at work though, because the firearm is tucked away under your arm there is less chance of it getting hung up on something.

I'm still debating if I will carry at work or not and I appreciate all opinions on the matter.

AR10, yes I am rather worried about debris getting into the firearm, but keeping it in a shoulder holster under a thick shirt like the 5.11 tactical one would stop most of it and the bit that does get through I would hope wouldn't be an issue. Again this will have to be checked, because I'm not sure.

ScottA 09-15-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genesaika (Post 1372628)
I feel taking a concealed carry class would be rather redundant. I'm rather well trained in multiple martial arts, which I believe teach roughly the same thing, and it's all common sense, Also basic gun safety covers a bit too.

http://youtu.be/9ki26Scr0Wc
Please get the training.


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