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Old 07-06-2012, 05:28 AM   #11
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I hear alot of people here (and other gun forums too) on mountain tops proclaiming how pro freedom they are.

How they would rather die than have their freedoms,guns, or anything they like taken from them.

But what I see more and more of is people running scared from their freedoms. Hiding behind laws like some democrat.

HAve any of you looked at his post "man sues" http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f17/man-sues-over-arrest-open-carry-63841/

The free man in question is beat almost to death by the members of this forum for sticking up not only for his rights but all gun owners.

If most of you reallly looked deep inside I wonder how much freedom you really support.

How about the topic of open carry? There's a topic here on this forum "My first day open carrying" Almost right away, you see this "

I'm a Nevada Resident too. Yes it's true, it's completely legal to open carry. And yet i have Nevada, Utah & Florida permits.
I will not open carry as some people don't understand or don't know that it's completely legal. I just like to stay low profile and avoid unneccessary attentions."

This tells me this person and other who think like this, are giving away personal freedoms in order to be safe?

As pro freedom nuts and what not that we are, how many member sigs have we seen with this quote?

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

Everyday you rather not carry open due to reasons whatever they are, you might as well vote for obama.

I plan on open carrying all this weekend in a silent ( but deadly ) way of showing my support for freedom.

The next time somebody ask you "should I open carry?" yes you should, should be your response with no ifs or buts. You help take away a person's freedom every time you post on forum how dangerous or bad open carry can be.
I find it intriguing that the first couple of comments from forum members were like "the guy is a tool" and "he shouldn't be harassing the police". Really? Standing up for his legal right to open carry and he's a tool? Come on folks....glad you brought this up dodger. This topic has always been on my mind as well. He stood up to the officer defending his rights. Why don't more of us do that?
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I hear alot of people here (and other gun forums too) on mountain tops proclaiming how pro freedom they are.

How they would rather die than have their freedoms,guns, or anything they like taken from them.

But what I see more and more of is people running scared from their freedoms. Hiding behind laws like some democrat.

HAve any of you looked at his post "man sues" http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f17/man-sues-over-arrest-open-carry-63841/

The free man in question is beat almost to death by the members of this forum for sticking up not only for his rights but all gun owners.

If most of you reallly looked deep inside I wonder how much freedom you really support.

How about the topic of open carry? There's a topic here on this forum "My first day open carrying" Almost right away, you see this "

I'm a Nevada Resident too. Yes it's true, it's completely legal to open carry. And yet i have Nevada, Utah & Florida permits.
I will not open carry as some people don't understand or don't know that it's completely legal. I just like to stay low profile and avoid unneccessary attentions."

This tells me this person and other who think like this, are giving away personal freedoms in order to be safe?

As pro freedom nuts and what not that we are, how many member sigs have we seen with this quote?

“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

Everyday you rather not carry open due to reasons whatever they are, you might as well vote for obama.

I plan on open carrying all this weekend in a silent ( but deadly ) way of showing my support for freedom.

The next time somebody ask you "should I open carry?" yes you should, should be your response with no ifs or buts. You help take away a person's freedom every time you post on forum how dangerous or bad open carry can be.
Thats a great start sir, and the "my first day open carrying is my thread haha. Yes as you can see i was bashed for it instantly instead of many supporting OR simply asking if it was truly legal. Its for whatever reason a rough subject with many ignorant commentators.
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This is preaching the gospel if ever I've seen it. Open carry isn't a bad thing at all. Outstanding post Dodger.

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Some people act Like god is watching and the more people open carry the more freedom will be bestowed on man kind.

My choosing to conceal doesn't hinder freedom. Its actually helping. Concealed laws are spreading like wildfire.

I don't wear jewelry showing off my wealth. Am I hurting future liberties regarding fashion options?

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Some people act Like god is watching and the more people open carry the more freedom will be bestowed on man kind.

My choosing to conceal doesn't hinder freedom. Its actually helping. Concealed laws are spreading like wildfire.

I don't wear jewelry showing off my wealth. Am I hurting future liberties regarding fashion options?
In my opinion no not at all are you hindering the freedom by concealing and yea very true that other states are adopting laws for CCW and thats awsome, however it is heard by many people that think open carrying is some sort of legal crime if that makes sense. Its like they believe you can do it but if you do its taboo...
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I agree. Now to the thread about http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f97/should-my-friend-get-ccw-67811/, I would have some reservations.

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I don't know if my views are representative of most pro-Second Amendment supporters, but I have absolutely no problem with anyone legally entitled (non-felon, of legal age, etc.) to open carry.

As the saying goes, "a right unexercised becomes a right denied" eventually.

However, I carry for self defense, and for my purposes, I am most comfortable and feel I can best accomplish the tactics of self defense by carrying concealed. I won't enter into the debate as to which method is the most effective - I have made my choice and I will respect yours.

I don't look at my decision not to carry openly as contributing to the dilution of my Second Amendment rights any more than I view someone open carrying as being a standard bearer of the Second Amendment. It's about choice.

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I open carry every chance I get.

Last night I gave two guys behind the deli counter a ton of info in response to their questions. They said they always see me OC, but were afraid to ask. They are quite interested about exercising their rights.

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I just don't buy that some ragged band of patriots who are exercising their rights to open carry...are keeping that right protected.

Who you vote for and what gets lobbied for yes.

I just don't see Congress sitting around and saying..." has anyone seen anyone else open carry this month? No? Guess it's tine to vote that off the books!"

It will get voted out by someone worried about someone else who IS open carrying.

Most of you are doing a great job showing people open carry is safe etc...but it only takes a few butt heads belligerently open carrying, negating the positives that will cause voting.

So maybe a right not exercised properly can be taken away. A right misused will.

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I just don't buy that some ragged band of patriots who are exercising their rights to open carry...are keeping that right protected.

Who you vote for and what gets lobbied for yes.

I just don't see Congress sitting around and saying..." has anyone seen anyone else open carry this month? No? Guess it's tine to vote that off the books!"

It will get voted out by someone worried about someone else who IS open carrying.

Most of you are doing a great job showing people open carry is safe etc...but it only takes a few butt heads belligerently open carrying, negating the positives that will cause voting.

So maybe a right not exercised properly can be taken away. A right misused will.

I'm sorry I don't get your point. Who is misusing their rights? Open carrying and telling a leo to piss up rope because he doesn't understand constitutional rights and laws is not misusing. It's the policeman's job to enforce laws how is he supposed to do that if he doesn't know the laws? I guarantee if you get hauled into court for wrong doing they won't excuse ignorance of the law so why should we excuse it. The police are supposed to be professionals and being professional means you know all aspects of your job.
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