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Old 05-17-2010, 03:54 AM   #11
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right now wisconsin where i live is technically an open carry state. this however is only loosely based on the opinion of the state ttorney general. there are folks who excercise OC here but im not willing to test the less than stellar wisconsin courts who favour actual criminals over honest citizens. the liberal judges relish in putting hard working taxpayers in jail and turning murderers, rapists, and pedophiles loose.

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I've lived in both worlds. Worked for a decade in a job where I was expected and required (was on 24 hour on call status) to be concealed carry 24/7. This got old real fast. A real pain when going to the beach or on hot summer days at a pool. When I retired I rejoiced at leaving the gun home. When concealed permits became easy in VA I debated getting one, but a careful read of the State's law shows there are downsides and loss of privileges that have no impact on unlicensed open carry people. In VA any uncovering of your pistol in the presence of others may be considered brandishing. You better be needing it if you are uncovering it. With open carry you don't have that problem. Likewise the concealed permits aren't valid in some places, but in some of those same places open carry is permissible. Hunting was a notorious example for quite some time. Likewise the permit only allows you to carry one gun. Open carry in VA doesn't stipulate a number. Why VA doesn't reword the concealed 'firearm permit' statute to a concealed 'weapon (of any kind and number) permit' eludes me. Open carry isn't unusual around here. I've met folks open carrying in Blockbusters, Books a Million, and at supermarkets.

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Old 06-05-2010, 07:34 PM   #13
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Outside of town, not an issue, OC or not (depending on individual state's laws).

The majority of people living in metropolitan areas understand that, while legal in many states, open carry is very close to "tugging on Superman's cape" or "spitting into the wind". Why would anyone with more than half a brain go out to purposely antagonize others?

People that live in large metropolitan areas (well, at least many of them) have come to realize that "shall issue" avails them of a way to legally carry in a mode that DOES NOT make them stand out, that DOES NOT antagonize others, that DOES NOT provoke unnecessary attention of Law Enforcement. Any that have jobs in large corporations understand that unnecessary attention of Law Enforcement usually means "looking for a new job", so avoid it when ever possible.

For those that live in NON-shall-issue states, hang in there. We are making more progress every day.

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I live in Florida, which is a CC-only state...

However, I use a hipmount holster when bowhunting wild hog, to which I've been asked "Why I've got a pistol during Bowhunting season", but never "Why isn't it concealed".

The reason I give wildlife officers, is personal protection...because you might get a hog with a bowshot...but it still very well may turn on you before you can get up a tree. To which they've all agreed that it was a reasonable precaution.

And they ignore the hip-holster...which technically should not be used in this state. Go figure.

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I'm guessing that since you were participating in a legal activity (bow hunting wild hog) in an appropriate area (out side of town) and had a reasonable reply to his question (The reason I give wildlife officers, is personal protection...because you might get a hog with a bow shot...but it still very well may turn on you before you can get up a tree. ) he decided to be a "nice guy" and not hassle you.

Amazing how being calm and polite with various forms of LEO produces nice results.

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Then generally speaking, CC is the way to go...
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Big Shrek do you think these wildlife officals would be so understanding during "Gun" season?

I have begun to hunt in FLA and want the piece of mind a pistol (when carried in conjunction with a slow/ ammo limited bolt action rifle) would provide.

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Here in OK they recently passed a measure to allow CC holders to also carry openly, but the governor vetoed it and they didn't have enough votes to override, so for now it's kind of moot for me. As far as LE goes, they're pretty tolerant in the OKC area, even to the point of understanding what they call "incidental exposure". With the wind in this state, occasionally your jacket or shirt tail is going to flip up, which might give someone a glimpse of your gun. As long as you're not deliberately exposing it, they ask to see your ID and permit, and then leave you alone. Really the only time I'd even think about carrying openly, though is if I were getting gas at night and didn't want to bother with putting on a jacket to cover the pistol. Since it's pay at the pump, it would be nice to just step out, fill up and get back in. As a general rule though, I would prefer no one know that I'm carrying unless an unavoidable situation occurs where I end up having to draw. So even if we end up getting open carry in the future, I doubt I'd do it often, if at all.

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Big Shrek do you think these wildlife officals would be so understanding during "Gun" season?

I have begun to hunt in FLA and want the piece of mind a pistol (when carried in conjunction with a slow/ ammo limited bolt action rifle) would provide.

I would imagine so, as hunting with a Pistol is quite legal in Florida during gun season. No rimfire for deer allowed.
No non-expanding ammo (Military Ball ammo) either.
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Rifles, shotguns, pistols, longbows, compound bows, recurve bows, crossbows and birds of prey (falcons, hawks and great horned owls) may be used.
However, as mentioned above...being NICE helps. And making contact with some of your local wildlife guys FIRST before hitting the field also helps. I've got long years of good relationships with some of the folks working in the three-county area.

Heck, I've previously asked many local officers where the coyotes were in the area that needed taking out...they're MORE than happy to send folks after varmints that are causing problems...because they are overworked as heck.

Nowadays I keep tabs with the local nuisance animal removal guy, as he's completely overwhelmed, and he's more than happy to let me know where the hogs/coyote/other nuisance critters are causing problems...because he's found out that when I remove problem critters, I do it safely & humanely...not to mention Free and I also get written permission from the Landowner FIRST
http://myfwc.com/docs/RecreationActivities/HuntingPermissioncard.pdf


Florida Spanish Boar (hogs) are considered Farm Animals if on Private Land. So technically, you are just culling a herd, and may do so with written permission of the LANDOWNER (no renters).
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With landowners’ permission, wild hogs may be taken year-round with no bag limits, size limits or licenses required. Wild hogs can be taken on WMAs only during specified seasons, where bag and size limits may apply. For more information on hunting wild hogs on WMAs, consult the specific WMA brochure for the area you want to hunt.

Diseases in wild hogs: Many wild hogs in Florida carry swine brucellosis—a bacterial disease that also is infectious to people. People handling wild hog carcasses or raw hog meat should avoid eating, drinking or using tobacco when field-dressing or handling carcasses; use latex or rubber gloves when handling the carcass or raw meat; avoid direct contact with blood, reproductive organs and fecal matter; clean and disinfect knives, cleaning area, clothing and any other exposed surfaces when finished; and wash hands thoroughly with soap and water. Wild hogs also may carry pseudorabies. Although not a risk to people, the virus can be deadly to dogs that are exposed to it. For more information on swine brucellosis and pseudorabies, go to MyFWC.com/wildlifedisease.
Now the most important thing in culling on someone else's land is to NEVER shoot towards their House/barns/work-play areas...so GPS positioning is KEY.

Second, be proficient with a Bow, because some folks just don't want guns on their land (Yeah, I know, even liberals farm) or have had previous bad experiences with Idiot "Professional" hog/varmint removal people who've shot a gun the wrong dang way and put a hole in their house/barn/tractor/whatever.

Third, let the farmer know which areas you will be working in, it's even nicer if you give him a walkie-talkie to contact you with if need be...because sometimes they'll be on the tractor and spot the invading critters, and can let you know. Critters will often ignore a tractor moving around...and it makes enough noise to cover your excess noises of approach sometimes

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For social purposes (ie- self defense) why would I forewarn a bad guy that I have a firearm?
To prevent an attack from happening in the first place.

The idea of people being scarred of guns on regular law abiding citizens never went well with me. The only thing I'm scarred of is the gangbanger hiding one in his coat pocket or the lawmakers here in Illinois denying us our rights. I'd take my chances with the gangbanger.

Thank god I live 6 blocks from Indiana where I do most of my shopping and run errands.
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