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MyRawTalent 10-27-2012 11:23 PM

Carrying as a passenger
 
I've looked everywhere and I can't find anything on the law about carrying a handgun on you if you are the passenger of a vehicle and you have a weapons permit. Do you still have to notify an officer and show him your license if you are not driving?

trip286 10-27-2012 11:28 PM

I would treat this as anything else. If I walk by a cop on the street, I wouldn't notify. Same as if I'm a passenger.

I would tell the driver. And I would leave it to him to notify a cop if they get pulled over.

Pasquanel 10-28-2012 12:18 AM

I don't know about where you guys are from but here I don't have to notify anyone about anything including the driver or the cop.

trip286 10-28-2012 12:41 AM

I wouldn't tell the driver because I had to.

I would tell them because it's the courteous thing to do and because they may have a record I don't know about and they could henceforth "tell me now" that, "hey bro, I got busted on a domestic charge 35 years ago, I don't need a gun around."

Also, if he gets pulled over, and he's asked "do you have any weapons in the car?" if he's being asked to exit, This may just happen to be a tidbit of information he may appreciate knowing. Because if they ask, the cops are not going to appreciate that information being withheld. I suppose you could just wait and speak up at this point, but again, that's a courtesy to your driver in my opinion. My step Dad tells me everytime. I already know, if he's awake, he's strapped. But he still tells me, if we get in a car together, "hey, by the way, I'm packin".

partdeux 10-28-2012 12:52 AM

state law trumps... talk to a local 2A attorney. But, if you're required to notify if you're a driver, you're likely to have to notify as a passenger.

Oblivion9 10-28-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trip286
I would treat this as anything else. If I walk by a cop on the street, I wouldn't notify. Same as if I'm a passenger.

I would tell the driver. And I would leave it to him to notify a cop if they get pulled over.

I agree not saying anything if passing a cop in street.

But being detained in a traffic stop is different. If you are legally in possession why not notify?

trip286 10-28-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblivion9

But being detained in a traffic stop is different. If you are legally in possession why not notify?

If I'm a passenger, I'm keeping my mouth shut, because its the driver who's been pulled over and I'm not speaking unless spoken to. I'll have already notified the driver that I'm packing because that's how I operate.

Now, if the driver is asked "do you have any weapons in the car?" And he fails to mention mine, at that point I will speak up. Only because, having been on the other side of the badge, I know damn well that no cop wants to be surprised if he asks the passenger to exit and discovers they're armed.

Also, in some states, its required that you notify law enforcement that your carrying if you're stopped, and to do so immediately. In that circumstance, I'll be reminding the driver of that as the cop is approaching.

In general, the driver got pulled over, not me. Therefore, the driver does the talking, not me, not unless I have to in order to avoid a possible really bad situation.

Let me make it clear, I'm not going to hide it. But I'm also not going to give the appearance of interfering. I would prefer the driver to be the one to say, "hey, my passenger is armed", while I sit there quietly, unobtrusively, and with my hands empty and in plain sight.

GNXtreme 10-29-2012 06:31 PM

In Oklahoma it has been the law that you must immediately notify an officer when engaged in official business... I.E. him pulling over the vehicle you are in. I for one feel that the fewer people know that I'm carrying the better. Only my wife and closest friends will know when I'm carrying (which is all the time, lol! ).

Old_Crow 10-30-2012 09:53 AM

I don't know the exact wording but here in NC you are required to notify the officer anytime you are stopped. Driving, walking or on a horse, so I would imagine as a passenger you are required to notify. Driving, walking or on a horse were the exact words of the instructor.

PanBaccha 10-30-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasquanel (Post 992435)
I don't know about where you guys are from but here I don't have to notify anyone about anything including the driver or the cop.

Ditto! As in the state of Florida.


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