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Old 06-29-2013, 09:00 PM   #71
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People are arguing that its ok for some to break the law but not others. Its ok for the government to stop some people carrying firearms and that law is ok and should be followed, but other laws are not ok and its ok to break them, if the guy carrying illegally was caught them he would be a criminal it just seems contradictory to me. PS My examples were at the top end of the criminal scale lets just say criminals no offence intended.

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I hate to pick nits here, but you can't call someone that purposely carries a firearm illegally a law abiding citizen. He is knowingly and willfully choosing to ignore the law.
you're right, but i think the general message i was trying to convey, should be able by most to understand my general view on that post and what my feelings are.

yes if someone breaks the law, they are no longer a LAC, but a law breaker, but lumping someone with that type of scum is wrong. i can condone and even respect someone for just being caught for illegally carrying, but a child molester or rapist, sorry but words can't truly convey what i feel for them.
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People are arguing that its ok for some to break the law but not others. Its ok for the government to stop some people carrying firearms and that law is ok and should be followed, but other laws are not ok and its ok to break them just seems contradictory to me. PS My examples were at the top end of the scale lets just say criminals no offence intended.
So you believe any 'law' passed is 100% perfect because the government is the final authority of right and wrong and we must all obey like good little subjects????

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People are arguing that its ok for some to break the law but not others. Its ok for the government to stop some people carrying firearms and that law is ok and should be followed, but other laws are not ok and its ok to break them just seems contradictory to me. PS My examples were at the top end of the scale lets just say criminals no offence intended.
you can think whatever you want. really doesn't mean a thing to us here, and frankly i have no interest in reading what you have to say.

i am done with this thread and have nothing further to add and will remove myself from the discussion.
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I hate to pick nits here, but you can't call someone that purposely carries a firearm illegally a law abiding citizen. He is knowingly and willfully choosing to ignore the law.
He is 'KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLY' exercising his rights. The government is wrong on this one, just admit it or are you one of these people who believe the government is always right and the people and the Constitution are wrong???
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The Second Amendment makes no provision for open or concealed carry. The Second Amendment makes no provision for age of purchase. The Second Amendment makes no provision for long gun or hand gun. That's where the Tenth Amendment comes in giving each individual state the right to choose.
Illinois prohibits both concealed and open carry.
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So you believe any 'law' passed 100% perfect because the government is the final authority of right and wrong and we must all obey like good little subjects????

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When we start feeling that we have the right to pick and choose which laws to follow, we have become a dangerous society!! I agree 100%, some of the laws are wrong and goes against our fundamental rights!! Fighting and protesting to get the laws changed is miles better than breaking the laws cause we feel they are wrong!!
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When we start feeling that we have the right to pick and choose which laws to follow, we have become a dangerous society!! I agree 100%, some of the laws are wrong and goes against our fundamental rights!! Fighting and protesting to get the laws changed is miles better than breaking the laws cause we feel they are wrong!!
Someone should have told Rosa Parks and the Freedom Riders they were going about civil rights all wrong.
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So you believe any 'law' passed is 100% perfect because the government is the final authority of right and wrong and we must all obey like good little subjects????
No I am sure I can find laws that I disagree with. If I feel strongly enough about it then there are things they can do legally to try and change the law. If that doesn't work then you can go down the road of trying to change the law by illegal means. If I did that then I would be a criminal and would have to face the consequences if caught if people decide to just obey the law they like and brake the ones they don't agree with that could cause problems. PS Apart from the rights and wrongs if the guy did use the firearm and killed someone then he could end up in jail for a long time.
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No I am sure I can find laws that I disagree with. If I feel strongly enough about it then there are things I can do legally to try and change the law. If that doesn't work then you can go down the road of trying to change the law by illegal means. If I did that then I would be a criminal and would have to face the consequences if caught if people decide to just obey the law they like and brake the ones they don't agree with that could cause problems.
I agree and if we all decided to pick and choose What laws to follow, than you would basically have no law!! Do we really want to even imagine that??
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