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LegatoRedrivers 04-12-2010 12:29 AM

Carrying in Bars?
 
I recently went to a bar with my GF, and she was actually surprised to see that I was NOT carrying.

I carry just about everywhere I go, but bars are the exception. While I know that people get drunk, tempers flare, and fights start, I'd just rather not be carrying there.

I never drink to get drunk, and am fully able of controlling myself, so it's a little hard to put my finger on why; but in any situation I know I'm going to drink at all, my sidearm is unloaded, locked, and placed in the trunk until I get home. It's just how I've always done it, and it's just always made sense to me.

Opinions on the subject?

EiteCombat 04-12-2010 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LegatoRedrivers (Post 268306)
I recently went to a bar with my GF, and she was actually surprised to see that I was NOT carrying.

I carry just about everywhere I go, but bars are the exception. While I know that people get drunk, tempers flare, and fights start, I'd just rather not be carrying there.

I never drink to get drunk, and am fully able of controlling myself, so it's a little hard to put my finger on why; but in any situation I know I'm going to drink at all, my sidearm is unloaded, locked, and placed in the trunk until I get home. It's just how I've always done it, and it's just always made sense to me.

Opinions on the subject?

In Virginia the only way to carry in bars is to open carry. It's illegal to conceal in an establishment that serves alcohol for consumption, even if you're not drinking. I find it better to just take it off then open carry though. Anytime I go to a place that serves alcohol I lock it in my glove compartment until I come back to the vehicle. I rarely drink when I'm out, if anything I'll have a beer. Open carrying around a bunch of drunks might invite trouble.

Hopefully they'll change the law so that if you're not drinking, you can conceal.

Rick1967 04-12-2010 12:54 AM

That sounds very responsible to me. I am not much of a drinker. But when I do, the gun gets put away.

LegatoRedrivers 04-12-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by EiteCombat (Post 268317)
In Virginia the only way to carry in bars is to open carry. It's illegal to conceal in an establishment that serves alcohol for consumption, even if you're not drinking. I find it better to just take it off then open carry though. Anytime I go to a place that serves alcohol I lock it in my glove compartment until I come back to the vehicle. I rarely drink when I'm out, if anything I'll have a beer. Open carrying around a bunch of drunks might invite trouble.

Hopefully they'll change the law so that if you're not drinking, you can conceal.

In Indiana, there's no distinction between open and concealed with a valid permit. Legally, I could CC in the bar if I chose to do so.

Correction - Unless it's a bar in a riverboat casino. Those are off limits, for some reason.

mpd8488 04-12-2010 01:07 AM

I don't like the idea of leaving my gun in the car. I worry about criminals watching me unload and pack it away in a parking lot or even just randomly targeting my car. Besides that I ride a bicycle 90% of the time, so I have no where to leave if I wanted to. If I plan on going out to drink the gun has to stay at home.

As mentioned above you have to open carry in restaurants with liquor licenses in Virginia. Legally speaking there is no such thing as a bar here, so the law cannot differentiate between a sit down restaurant with a couple of taps and a true watering hole. I do open carry in restaurants, but never in a crowded one that has clearly switched into night-time bar mode.

LegatoRedrivers 04-12-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mpd8488 (Post 268324)
I worry about criminals watching me unload and pack it away in a parking lot.

I've been concerned about that as well. I generally stop somewhere with a quiet parking lot (or just in a friend's driveway) in order to pack it away, then proceed to the watering hole from there.

planenut 04-12-2010 02:25 AM

In SC you can't conceal in a restaurant that also serves alchohol. No open carry either so it has already been decided for me... :(

Even if I'm not drinking in say a Chili's or Applebee's, I can't carry.

EiteCombat 04-12-2010 03:24 AM

I don't like the idea of packing it away in the car either but for me it's fairly simple as it takes about 5 seconds for me to disengage my holster and weapon and put it in my glovebox. The glove box has it's own lock so they would have to break into the car, then break that lock. Or just take the whole car. But there are much nicer cars in most parking lots to steal then mine.:D

mpd8488 04-12-2010 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by EiteCombat (Post 268414)
I don't like the idea of packing it away in the car either but for me it's fairly simple as it takes about 5 seconds for me to disengage my holster and weapon and put it in my glovebox. The glove box has it's own lock so they would have to break into the car, then break that lock. Or just take the whole car. But there are much nicer cars in most parking lots to steal then mine.:D

Car thieves tend to go after older cars because the chop shops need parts for older vehicles. Common cars like Accords, Minivans, and Explorers are also among the most targeted vehicles.

https://www.nicb.org/newsroom/nicb_campaigns/hot%E2%80%93wheels/hot%E2%80%93wheels

I drive a Cherokee and those usually make the top ten lists.

Gojubrian 04-12-2010 04:54 AM

I don't go into bars. Solves alot of problems before they even happen. :p


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