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11-12-2012, 12:26 AM
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To put it simply "You do as you train". If you carry both Con 1 and at times 2 you are putting yourself at a distinct disadvantage if you are attacked!!!  In my younger days I did the same thing, but I learned not to do this from a very enlightening experience!!! 
You will have to 'think' about which method you are using 'at that time' before you REACT!!!  If you are reacting to a tactical situation you are not directly involved in you will not have a problem as you will have time to 'think', BUT if you are under direct attack and you have to 'think' before you act it could cost you dearly!!!! 
That is why I teach only 'draw and fire' if possible from the same place (holster type and location) and with a gun that requires nothing more than a 'trigger pull'! 
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Respectfully disagree.
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11-12-2012, 02:15 AM
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You really have to know your gun. The lore has it that cowboys carried hammer down on an empty cylindar since the hammer made direct contact with the primer in an old Peacemaker. A new Ruger Vaquero has a transfer bar system making that unnecessary. Colt added a firing pin blocking sytem in the system 80 to make them safer than the older system 70s (though harder to assemble). Some recent 1911s have gone to titanium firing pins to maker them safer with a shell in the chamber. Read your manual.....doc
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11-12-2012, 02:17 AM
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Always have one in the chamber.
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11-12-2012, 03:36 PM
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Respectfully disagree.
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Just a guess, but I would bet you are less than 50 years old!
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11-12-2012, 04:22 PM
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Just a guess, but I would bet you are less than 50 years old! 
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11-13-2012, 03:32 AM
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If you can't trust yourself to carry in condition 1, then you probably shouldn't be carrying a gun. If you can't trust your gun, you need to find a different gun.
I always carry in condition 1. Carrying in condition 2 is pointless and will most likely get you killed.
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11-13-2012, 03:37 AM
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I carry with one in the chamber always.
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11-13-2012, 01:52 PM
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I used to only sharpen my knives right before I
needed them, but that didn't work out so well...
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11-14-2012, 12:53 AM
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Did you ever have one of those sloped forehead experiences? You know, when you hit yourself in the forehead thinking, "Duh! Why didn't I think of that?"
My son has a Taurus PT92 (Beretta 92 knockoff). It is a DA/SA semi-auto. He carries it with a round in the chamber, but de-cocked with the safety engaged. That sounds like a condition 1 and a half to me, but I am a relatively new shooter, so I'm not sure how that gets classified.
The gun is in a half-cocked condition with a manual safety in the holster. The gun is ready to fire after releasing the manual safety and pulling something north of about 10 lb trigger pressure. There's a manual safety and a heavy pull between you and an "accidental" discharge. So, there's a bit of deliberate action in two different areas of the gun before it will actually discharge. Hard to imagine both of these happening "accidentally".
That seems to fall somewhere between condition 1 and condition 2 to me. Just curious, how does chambered/decocked/double action get classified?
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11-14-2012, 02:17 AM
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Almost like the old saying cocked and locked
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