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Centurian22 10-11-2012 08:57 AM

Carry permit timeframe ques.
 
So I have a question. In Maine the law states:

Permit Issued Timeline:
A permit shall be issued within 30 days for a resident of 5 or more years, otherwise it shall be issued within 60 days.

Source: http://www.usacarry.com/maine_concea...formation.html

I am a resident applying for the first time so I fall under the 30days. However, my local PD where I applied said they are getting backed up on applications and it may take 5-6 weeks before I hear back. As I have waited this long (speaking of years in my life) and I would be away at work for four of those weeks I did not press the issue but was nonetheless curious. Could I have used the very law book they provided me to push this issue? Does anyone think it would do any good? Or would it more likely have just put me on their "this guy is a PITA so 'accidentally lose his application'" list?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

c3shooter 10-11-2012 10:35 AM

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shall be issued
Operative would is SHALL- meaning will be. Not "when we get to it", not "we are backed up". SHALL. Fail to comply with State law? Call the Attorney General's Office, and call the State Police.

You have to comply with the law- so do they.

TDS92A 10-11-2012 03:08 PM

I do not know how to post a double quote, so I will say this; I agree with c3shooter. Hold their feet to the fire.

On the flip side however is this, there are so many of your fellow citizens applying for the same thing that it is causing a backlog is a good thing! :D



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Originally Posted by Centurian22 (Post 972510)
So I have a question. In Maine the law states:

Permit Issued Timeline:
A permit shall be issued within 30 days for a resident of 5 or more years, otherwise it shall be issued within 60 days.

Source: http://www.usacarry.com/maine_concea...formation.html

I am a resident applying for the first time so I fall under the 30days. However, my local PD where I applied said they are getting backed up on applications and it may take 5-6 weeks before I hear back. As I have waited this long (speaking of years in my life) and I would be away at work for four of those weeks I did not press the issue but was nonetheless curious. Could I have used the very law book they provided me to push this issue? Does anyone think it would do any good? Or would it more likely have just put me on their "this guy is a PITA so 'accidentally lose his application'" list?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!


treehugger49 10-12-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 972529)
Operative would is SHALL- meaning will be. Not "when we get to it", not "we are backed up". SHALL. Fail to comply with State law? Call the Attorney General's Office, and call the State Police.

You have to comply with the law- so do they.

Yep, that's my take on it, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDS92A (Post 972736)
I do not know how to post a double quote, so I will say this; I agree with c3shooter. Hold their feet to the fire.

On the flip side however is this, there are so many of your fellow citizens applying for the same thing that it is causing a backlog is a good thing! :D

Click on the quote icon (") in the lower-right section of the message you first want to quote, and then the "Quote" icon of the next post.

TDS92A 10-12-2012 01:21 PM

@treehugger,

Thanks for the education!! :D


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Originally Posted by treehugger49 (Post 973965)
Yep, that's my take on it, too.



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treehugger49 10-12-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TDS92A (Post 973992)
@treehugger,

Thanks for the education!! :D

It's rare for a person like myself, who my wife says is "stuck in the eighties", to be able to pass on a nugget of wisdom concerning anything technological.

I'm happy to help. It probably won't happen again....

TDS92A 10-12-2012 03:22 PM

You would be surprised how much an education you can give someone and not evern realize it. :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by treehugger49 (Post 974042)
It's rare for a person like myself, who my wife says is "stuck in the eighties", to be able to pass on a nugget of wisdom concerning anything technological.

I'm happy to help. It probably won't happen again....


Old_Crow 10-13-2012 02:31 AM

I would just go with the flow. The deputy might have just said 5 to 6 weeks we are busy to keep the phone from ringing. The courts are even busier than the sheriffs dept. You might get your case heard in 90 days or more. Once the sheriffs dept. gets wind of your court case they might decide you are mentally ill and deny your permit altogether. Then you need a lawyer and a trip to superior court. A $90 permit that you would have got with no trouble is now going to cost thousands and could be delayed for years.

phildenton 10-14-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Crow
I would just go with the flow. The deputy might have just said 5 to 6 weeks we are busy to keep the phone from ringing. The courts are even busier than the sheriffs dept. You might get your case heard in 90 days or more. Once the sheriffs dept. gets wind of your court case they might decide you are mentally ill and deny your permit altogether. Then you need a lawyer and a trip to superior court. A $90 permit that you would have got with no trouble is now going to cost thousands and could be delayed for years.

I dont believe its up to them to decide that, its thier job to look at a file and then rubber stamp it, otherwise they are on the hook for even more. The law is shall, not may. They only are allowed the allotted time, for which is probably less than an hour of actual fact checking, the necessary files are all on computer now, and a simple 5 minute call to the agency that houses said file (state police, fbi, dshs, etc) for the files they cant look up themselves.
wa has 7 specific files, agencies they check, and the same 30 day shall issue, and the same boom in cpl applications, and yet its usually just 2-3 weeks to receive the permit or denial letter via mail.

Old_Crow 10-15-2012 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by phildenton (Post 976597)
I dont believe its up to them to decide that, its thier job to look at a file and then rubber stamp it, otherwise they are on the hook for even more. The law is shall, not may. They only are allowed the allotted time, for which is probably less than an hour of actual fact checking, the necessary files are all on computer now, and a simple 5 minute call to the agency that houses said file (state police, fbi, dshs, etc) for the files they cant look up themselves.
wa has 7 specific files, agencies they check, and the same 30 day shall issue, and the same boom in cpl applications, and yet its usually just 2-3 weeks to receive the permit or denial letter via mail.

When I got my permit I didn't ask how long it would be. The time frame was on a sheet attached to the application (30 days). I got it in two weeks. The deputy was just answering the OP's question. That doesn't mean it will take that long.


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