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Old 12-25-2011, 08:55 PM   #41
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In an actual SD situation you will barely have time to present and fire, much less fool around with hearing protection.
I would suggest a class from a professional trainer focused on SD situations, even if firing at stationary targets.
I would go a step further and maybe think about running a Tueller Drill just to see if there's any extra fractions of seconds available.

I completely understand the desire to protect your hearing. Unfortunately, drawing your weapon in SD is a last-resort tactic. The really good options are no longer available, including walking away and everybody goes home uninjured.
Well you can call a time out and see if the BG listens while you insert your ear plugs.. :-\
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Well you can call a time out and see if the BG listens while you insert your ear plugs.. :-\
Exactly, sir... that's my point... most of these things happen at "bad breath" distance ... even drawing and firing under stress will be a major challenge ... and unless well-practiced, even that part is unlikely
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I love how everyone keeps saying how in a SD situation you will barely have time to draw... Well if you read what he wrote the first thing he said was... if the opportunity presented itself.... christ people
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Well you can call a time out and see if the BG listens while you insert your ear plugs.. :-\
HAHAHAHAHA Now, now mister bad to the bone man... please take this opportunity to meander into my kitchen where you'll find a nice Hoagie, and beer in the fridge, Oh just one more second please, I dropped one of these little thingies, they're so frustrating at times, gosh... R O F L
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I love how everyone keeps saying how in a SD situation you will barely have time to draw... Well if you read what he wrote the first thing he said was... if the opportunity presented itself.... christ people
Because it is unrealistic. At the point you realize you must draw it's too late for earplugs.
There will not be such an opportunity.
But nothing is stopping you from having them handy if that's your strategy.
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There will not be such an opportunity.
Be a little more open-minded. The very first post gave an example of a riot breaking out around your car.

Everyone agrees that most situations would happen too fast. The discussion is for carrying earplugs to be prepared for when you might want them and also have time to put them in.
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I have significant hearing loss due to past history with LOUD aircaft engines and guns, so I wouldn't carry earplugs on a regular basis. But another reason I don't carry earplugs and would never put them in my ears in a SD situation is that ANY excuse a prosecutor or civil plaintiff's attorney can come up with in an attempt to show premeditation should be avoided. To carry ear protection on a daily basis, then to use them when the SHTF is likely to give the BG's attorney or a prosecutor an excuse to claim that you went out LOOKING for an opportunity to shoot someone.
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Be a little more open-minded. The very first post gave an example of a riot breaking out around your car.

Everyone agrees that most situations would happen too fast. The discussion is for carrying earplugs to be prepared for when you might want them and also have time to put them in.
Marthor: I'm not trying to have a post-war with you, sir... I'm trying to point out that in an SD situation you must have priorities. You must train with those priorities in mind. It is not a matter of open-mindedness -- I completely understand the OP -- I get that he is asking "what if there's time?" -- I am able to comprehend such concepts.

What I'm trying to convey is that there are many things we'd "like" to be a certain way and we'd like to have time for.

I believe you are doing a disservice to that member by suggesting anything extraneous -- yes, extraneous -- to the actions required for self defense.
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Marthor: I'm not trying to have a post-war with you, sir... I'm trying to point out that in an SD situation you must have priorities. You must train with those priorities in mind. It is not a matter of open-mindedness -- I completely understand the OP -- I get that he is asking "what if there's time?" -- I am able to comprehend such concepts.

What I'm trying to convey is that there are many things we'd "like" to be a certain way and we'd like to have time for.

I believe you are doing a disservice to that member by suggesting anything extraneous -- yes, extraneous -- to the actions required for self defense.
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Everybody is free to choose their strategy. There's a ton of information available to all of us. Some of that information is available from professional trainers and some is available from people's opinions.

I'm not a professional trainer, so you can take my input as just another opinion.

My goal in posting the responses I did was only to be helpful as I see misinformation posted on these types of forums frequently and I hope we're all here for the same purpose -- to try to help eachother -- to learn from eachother.

Carry earplugs. Don't carry earplugs. I've obviously said my piece.

I will recommend that you discuss this with a qualified and experienced professional trainer to get an expert's opinion which would carry more weight than mine.
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