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Old 04-23-2010, 11:35 AM   #101
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Did I understand this correctly? Someone said something about "you should feel lucky you can even purchase a handgun" , and then went on to say that in California if you have a mental illness you can't even purchase any gun.
So... I live in California and I have a mental disability called Asperger's Syndrome and Major Depression. I have already compelated the hunter's saftey coarse years back, before I was diagnosed. Does this in turn mean it is legal for me to purchase for example multiple expensive hunting tag's for say... Deer ,Wild Boar ,or hmm lets see even a hunting tag for a Bear for that matter, but not legal for me to purchase a new handgun or any gun for that matter to use if a wounded hog charges me or a huge Bear that doesnt go down so easy? If that is infact the case then by all means this law certainly does not make me feel any safer. It fact I feel ripped off considering I had paid a fee for the hunter's saftey coarse. What do you suggest I go Bear hunting with, a butter knife perhaps ? I suppose bow hunting is an option but not a very viable one in my opinion. Or is a bow out of the question as well ? I would prefer to use a high powered rifle or AR-15/
Mini-30 and a colt 1911 .45 as back up, maybe even a knife incase a pig gets on top of me. Bear/Pig hunting with a bow/knife sounds more insane/dangerous than any law abiding citizen with hunting tags and a (pistol/rifle/shotgun/disability). I am not one to believe I can not purchase any new guns. Could someone please clarify this for me ? I may have missed something. I hope you all realize half of what I had to say was sarcasm. My disability certainly effects my daily life as well as quality of life and I have my reasons to be depressed, it certainly doesnt make me a criminal by any means. Lucky me I bought a 12 Ga. nearly as soon as I turned 18 and I also own a .308 bolt action rifle as well as multiple other firearms most of which I choose not to use at all because I view the majority of my firearms as family heirlooms. I would far rather prefer to purchase a New rifle and hand gun if possible soley for the purpose of being properly prepared for hunting wild pig.

Sorry to have bombed your post about CCW and all but that is my two cents on CA gun laws for the mentally disabled/ill. Again I may have missed something and could be going on about not being allowed to purchase a gun when really I could, I am not sure so someone please clarify this for me. It doesnt seem to add up that someone can legally obtain a hunters saftey certificate and use this certificate to buy hunting tags but then Not be allowed to purchase a gun. This is actualy the info I was searching for when I came accross your post. I need to know if I can buy the rifle and pistol I plan to purchase, In the state of California for the sole use of hunting, all while having a mental disability of Asperger's Syndrome and Major Depression.

If I am allowed to purchase a New handgun and Rifle then my bad for rambling on but honestly I am not even the least bit interested in what anyone thinks if I did look like a jackle or what not for rambling on. Anyhow please get back to me.

This is dissapointing to be thinking I might not be allowed to buy the proper tools to hunt safe, hand to hand combat with an angry Bear or Pig doesnt sound like a good time to me. All because I was born with a brain wired a little differantly. Hunting should be an equall opportunity spot for all to enjoy in a proper and safe fashion. I always wanted to harvest a wild boar and have a pig roast to share it with family. I would have a sence of pride in doing this. That is BS if I end up getting murdered by a hog while hunting because I dont have a good side arm. For those of you who are in fact hunting hogs with a blade, more power to you but I dont have brass balls.

cya all, I'm outty 500 for now!
PS: Wait haha, hand to hand combat with a bear does sound pretty fun to some degree
Or pretty badass, but not a risk I am willing to take.
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Big news, I was misdiagnosed. I don't even have aspergers or major depression. I have Schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder. It is actually called Schizo-affective disorder when there is a dual diagnoses. I choose not to let that hold me back. I have since gotten my CCW and have become a fire fighter. Thanks for the comment about take your meds now. I appreciate your concern but in all honesty I am better off without meds.
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I think you should be glad you get to own a gun at all. Here in CA if you have any treated mental issues you can't even own a gun. They don't ask what illness and make exceptions for the less seriously affected. So be glad for what you have.
I don't think thats the right attitude at all! Sure be happy you can own a gun in the first place, but you should not except the fact you cannot carry for your own personal protection. It is not fair they generalize mental illness like that.

Especially if someone has a history of anger management problems, that no way stops them from owning or carrying a firearm, ha! That is a problem with society, outcasting and categorizing everyone that's not like the 'norm'.

Who cares if you have to wash your hands 73 times and count how many tiles there are in your kitchen, before you leave your house. You still have the right to defend yourself.
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I know this is an old post, but it was my most viewed and or controversial, so I figured i'd update.

After several years they finally changed the application questions to something that make sense, and I applied and was approved for a Michigan CPL without even a delay. You can look at the specific details on the state forums under Michigan.

Simply put, they changed the law to allow or deny based on statutory qualifications/disqualifications alone and not based upon opinion of gun boards, which the state has done away with.

Now the system is efficient and fair like it should be, but the permits look like a 4th grade art project, let's just say they look fake as heck and leave it at that. Anyways, thanks for all the support over the years, and or prayers that have made something happen that I thought never would.
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I know this is an old post, but it was my most viewed and or controversial, so I figured i'd update.

After several years they finally changed the application questions to something that make sense, and I applied and was approved for a Michigan CPL without even a delay. You can look at the specific details on the state forums under Michigan.

Simply put, they changed the law to allow or deny based on statutory qualifications/disqualifications alone and not based upon opinion of gun boards, which the state has done away with.

Now the system is efficient and fair like it should be, but the permits look like a 4th grade art project, let's just say they look fake as heck and leave it at that. Anyways, thanks for all the support over the years, and or prayers that have made something happen that I thought never would.
Glad to hear it worked out for you Toth.

Your state wasn't the only one to set that kind of standard when it comes to mental health issues and Carry permits. Another member in LA is going through the same right now, and last I heard, he was still at the filling out the forms end of it, and wondering how to handle that question.

We also had a similar thing come up in NY when the Unsafe Act was passed, that is a violation of HIPPA laws. They want all aplicants, and some who already have a Pistol Permit, to allow them to check the meds and for mental issues in the name of Public Safety. I was one of many to jump on the Class Action bandwagon on this for one simple reason. I am on an anti-depressant, that was prescribed to me by my PCP, but not for a mental issue. One of it's side effects is it makes you drowsy, and i have suffered from insomnia since my teens. This is an approved clinical use for this medication, but I could have had my permit and rights revoked over this.

I'm just glad i had a PCP who also carries, and who told the County and state agencies that they would have to put those requests in with his offices lawyer, and the courts can handle it from there. More than one office did this, and the state soon dropped it.
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