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Old 09-07-2013, 04:43 PM   #151
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U would definitely get prosecuted if you shoot a retreating man in the back. Yes it sucks and I would be tempted to do the same. If he runs away maybe we should shoot him in the legs first, lol
If the person is running away from him with his gun in his hand and maybe "pointing it at another car" when balota shoots him it could be justified. But i'd bet they'd still sue and possibly attempt to prosecute anyway.
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If BG has already done violence, I'd shoot him in the back. "I thought he was retreating to cover so he could continue to harm me."
never say anything but "he was coming after me". If they ask why he has a bullet in the back, say "I don't know. He was coming after me."

Repeat that statement time and time again, never wavering. If you even so much as say "Maybe......" then it opens you up for a whole can of worms. If it comes down to a trial, then let your attorney handle the what-ifs. If you get on the stand in your own defense, you go it. "He was coming after me."

You didn't think anything, you didn't guess anything, you didn't know anything. "He was coming after me." That is all you say.
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U would definitely get prosecuted if you shoot a retreating man in the back. Yes it sucks and I would be tempted to do the same. If he runs away maybe we should shoot him in the legs first, lol
Probably right. But if he's already done physical violence to someone, beaten, shot, stabbed... right before taking off, it's all part of that fight to me.
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never say anything but "he was coming after me". If they ask why he has a bullet in the back, say "I don't know. He was coming after me."

Repeat that statement time and time again, never wavering. If you even so much as say "Maybe......" then it opens you up for a whole can of worms. If it comes down to a trial, then let your attorney handle the what-ifs. If you get on the stand in your own defense, you go it. "He was coming after me."

You didn't think anything, you didn't guess anything, you didn't know anything. "He was coming after me." That is all you say.
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I agree with the sentiment (open season on BG). Actually that season opens when he pulls his gun on you. Problem is it closes when he turns and runs.

If he just walks away arrogantly, things may be different. Arm yourself and dial 911. Loudly and insultingly describe the situation. If he turns back to repeat his intimidation, apply useful pressure to the trigger. Recoil and repeat until the threat is stopped.
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the comment i made about an open season on BG's was made purely tongue in cheek, off the wall humor and not to be taken seriously.

purely a case of wishful thinking. IMO, as much as i hate it, if the BG is retreating or has left the scene, technically, he's not a threat, and can't be shot in the back, even as much as we may think he deserves it. but getting the gun into hand as soon as possible, even if he has left is simply because what if he decides to return, to leave no witness' to his crime is my point.

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the comment i made about an open season on BG's was made purely tongue in cheek, off the wall humor and not to be taken seriously.

purely a case of wishful thinking. IMO, as much as i hate it, if the BG is retreating or has left the scene, technically, he's not a threat, and can't be shot in the back, even as much as we may think he deserves it. but getting the gun into hand as soon as possible, even if he has left is simply because what if he decides to return, to leave no witness' to his crime is my point.
I agree. And if he runs away with material goods I'd let him go. But when he crosses the line to violence, it's on and it doesn't turn off for me just cause he wants to run. He could be going for a better weapon.
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I agree. And if he runs away with material goods I'd let him go. But when he crosses the line to violence, it's on and it doesn't turn off for me just cause he wants to run. He could be going for a better weapon.
if he attacked someone and caused them harm in any way, all bets are off. his life isn't worth spit!
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Say a bad guy has the drop on you in a situation that he has you dead to rights and wants to rob you. Let's face it we can't always be on our toes no matter how hard we try. Do you give him what he wants, take a chance and draw on him, or wait till he turns to leave then take action your chosen way. I thought about this once and would like to hear some straight up honest answers.Personally I think I would give him what he wants then the moment I can draw my gun im going for it, not while dead to rights of course. The only problem is if I shoot this criminal in the back I have just became the one who is going to get prosecuted. So I guess I let him go and cut my losses if he runs away(he hopes)
Another 'WHAT IF' which can't be answered because there are just too many variables in real situations to say EXACTLY what you could/should/or would do!!!
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