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quetzalcoatl 10-03-2007 04:15 PM

Attacker Clothing?
If your attacker is wearing really heavy jackets and stuff in the winter is it going to take a significantly greater amount of firepower to actually stop them with a firearm?

robocop10mm 10-03-2007 05:22 PM

attacker clothing
Very heavy clothing ie. Leather or heavy canvas can be a problem. I do not think it would take "significantly more firepower" to stop them. Any decent defensive handgun should perform OK. 9mm being the minimum. If I lived in the great white north I would not carry anything less in the winter.

Bidah 10-03-2007 05:47 PM

I read somewhere that thick leather jackets could stop a Glazer. Other than that, a HP could plug up, in which case it would "fail" and act like an FMJ round. If you shoot till stop, I do not see a problem.


matt g 10-03-2007 10:59 PM

My defense mags are loaded 195 gr. Hydrashock, 230 gr. Hydrashock, 230 gr. FMJ, then they alternate between the 230 gr. Hydras and 230 gr. ball. I keep 2 mags loaded that way. If I can't clear my house using those 14 rounds, I've pissed off the wrong people.

Varro 10-04-2007 12:50 AM

Personally, I think you're on the right track....Not only clothes thickness to worry about, it's been reported many perps now wearing protective vests when they are up to no good.
My calibers go up in the winter for this reason with more opportunities for concealment..:)

stomach9 10-08-2007 11:55 PM

This is true, but I haven't changed my ammunition it's been 45 GAP year-round. If they are wearing some protection they'll have to stop at least ten rounds from getting through which I'm confident at least a couple will.

1984cj 10-09-2007 01:49 AM

This link sorta relates to your question about clothing and penetration.

It is also a really cool site! :)

pioneer461 10-16-2007 05:18 PM

Federal Ammo, EFMJ (Expanding Full Metal Jacket). Looks like a FMJ, expands like a hollow-point. Guaranteed not to plug up and will expand, no matter what. Not available in all calibers.

ranger_sxt 11-06-2007 08:24 PM

Shoot them in the face.

Chuck 11-08-2007 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by ranger_sxt (Post 11573)
Shoot them in the face.

That'll leave a mark. :D

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