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Old 08-30-2013, 03:41 PM   #51
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I'm previous law enforcement . You don't train using the command show me your hands then opening fire with no pause. It turns a very commonly used police phrase to ingrain the shoot command.

These detectives weren't training gunpoint tactics. Their trainer sets up the scenarios almost all with people answering a door hand in pocket driver sitting in a car hands hidden . Or refusing to comply with no visible weapon. I've seen them doing it. Its some scary stuff.

That's what I'm getting at. We trained reaction shooting in the mp's in the army using the call word "gun".

We also trained to shoot until the command he is down which could occur at any point not just when your last mag runs dry.

All I'm saying is not all police units follow good practice and some teach what I call execution training.

I'm not saying its a all police doing this. It seems to just be this group. Here where I live
If that's how their trainer sets them up then I would agree that it's bad juju and definitely not something that fits in anywhere in POST (Peace Officer Standards & Training). Law enforcement in general DOES NOT train this way.
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I want to get my wife a small 38 to keep in the car. I'm looking for a cheap reliable gun. Advice?
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I want to get my wife a small 38 to keep in the car. I'm looking for a cheap reliable gun. Advice?
A good used Smith would be my first choice. The Ruger LCR is another good option.

You sure five shots of .38 Special is going to be enough for your wife??
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A good used Smith would be my first choice. The Ruger LCR is another good option.

You sure five shots of .38 Special is going to be enough for your wife??
No I'm not, but she is very forgetful and often leaves her semi at home on the nightstand. Not because its bulky or heavy or she doesn't like to carry it. Just simply because she forgets it there. I don't want to buy an expensive semi to sit in the center console of her car in the dirt and heat 24/7, it would be a waste. I figure 5 shots is better than no shots.

Edit: It will only be fired to verify that it functions and then it will live out its days in peace. Hopefully if she actually has to use a firearm it will be on a day that she remembered her semi and extra magazines.
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No I'm not, but she is very forgetful and often leaves her semi at home on the nightstand. Not because its bulky or heavy or she doesn't like to carry it. Just simply because she forgets it there. I don't want to buy an expensive semi to sit in the center console of her car in the dirt and heat 24/7, it would be a waste. I figure 5 shots is better than no shots.
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LOL! I never said I didn't like revolvers. :-) I won a police shooting competition with a S&W .38 back when I was in the explorers. I just like having extra ammo in the pipe in case I need it.
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I'm what one of my buddies call an "Ol Bassard" and go all the way back to when the only two common high cap nines were the P35 and the all steel S&W 59. Also spent a bunch of time reading Bill Jordan and learning how to speed load a Model 19. I have a problem with the idea that revolvers are foolproof. I had a Trooper MK III back the ejector rod out and lock the cylinder in. Had a four inch barrel S&W 29 that would let the cylinder go backwards with heavy loads and then it would go click on the next trigger pull. Had a S&W 586 that would let loaded factory ammo back up in the cylinder and bind up if shot at an upward angle. I have an old Model 19 with an enclosed cylinder, the Model 18 .22LR version, a Dick Special and a clean stainless Taurus snubbie still so I'm hardly a hater, but I usually carry my NATO Browning or a Glock 27. If there is a reason I actually want a gun in my hand in my vest or jacket pocket then of course it's the snubbie.
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And then I have had the Mod 19 4", 586 4" & 6" and the trooper MK III 4" all with no problems at all.
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