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Old 04-16-2012, 03:09 AM   #11
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Just as soon as the Black Pissers learn how to communicate with one another, anti-gun people will be scrambling to get armed.
"Black Pissers"?


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"Black Pissers"?
Yeah, I don't understand this, either.


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I'm going to bring religion into this, in a way...

Convincing an anti gun person that guns are not bad, is very similar to convincing an atheist there is a God, or an atheist convincing a Christian there isn't one.

A lot of these beliefs come from long ingrained indoctrination of a particular way of thinking, and it's very hard to convince someone that the beliefs they've held for most likely all their life are wrong.

Look at it this way... How easy do you think it would be to convince you, "knowing" what you know, that guns really ARE evil? You're simply fighting the battle in the other direction, and unfortunately some people just can't be convinced. It's best to just let it go sometimes, and agree to disagree.

If your supervisor is just an overall douche, you have my sympathies.

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I believe, that by "black pisser" they were reffering to that resurrected terrorist group, the "new" black panthers, i was raised by strong anti gunners, by being patient and knowledgable, one of them, my aging mother, is ready to learn to shoot, get a handgun, and license to carry, the rest are a lost cause

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I'm going to bring religion into this, in a way...

Convincing an anti gun person that guns are not bad, is very similar to convincing an atheist there is a God, or an atheist convincing a Christian there isn't one.

A lot of these beliefs come from long ingrained indoctrination of a particular way of thinking, and it's very hard to convince someone that the beliefs they've held for most likely all their life are wrong.

Look at it this way... How easy do you think it would be to convince you, "knowing" what you know, that guns really ARE evil? You're simply fighting the battle in the other direction, and unfortunately some people just can't be convinced. It's best to just let it go sometimes, and agree to disagree.

If your supervisor is just an overall douche, you have my sympathies.
Agree... Put another way, you can't reason a person out of a position the didn't reason themselves into.
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Ask your super if they have a first aid kit at home.
Then if he has a fire extinguisher.
Then why does he have them? (Most of the time the answer is because the ambulance or fire department cannot respond fast enough.)

Then ask him to explain why he expects the LEO's to respond faster than the others.

You have a tool to be used "Just in case of...." that you have learned to master, just like First Aid, CPR, or fire prevention.

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I feel for your situation, but becareful if he is your supervisor. He could
have significant influence over your job and career.

My current boss is trying to work on his wife so he can get more into
firearms. The biggest challenge is that they are both from England
so there is alot of education to be done.

Sometime when I run into people that are anti-second amendment
I play turn around with the first amendment. Stating things like I
don't think anyone should be allowed a pubic opinion unless they
have a college degree (if the person you are speaking with does not.
Or that you should be regulated in what you say, etc. etc. Or that
only Christianity should be the only allowable religion. And then
when you have them really pissed off. Point out that those are the
some tactics being used on our Second Amendment freedoms.

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I hate that some people have that mindset about guns and their owners.

We shoot out in my back yard sometimes, and a lady down the street kept complaining about it, she even started a petition to get it banned. I have over 5 acres of land and a great place to shoot without fear of stray bullets hitting someone or something. I think she had 2 signatures on her petition when she gave up.

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I'm going to bring religion into this, in a way...

Convincing an anti gun person that guns are not bad, is very similar to convincing an atheist there is a God, or an atheist convincing a Christian there isn't one.

A lot of these beliefs come from long ingrained indoctrination of a particular way of thinking, and it's very hard to convince someone that the beliefs they've held for most likely all their life are wrong.

Look at it this way... How easy do you think it would be to convince you, "knowing" what you know, that guns really ARE evil? You're simply fighting the battle in the other direction, and unfortunately some people just can't be convinced. It's best to just let it go sometimes, and agree to disagree.

If your supervisor is just an overall douche, you have my sympathies.
I've found this to be the case most of the time as well. It really irritates me because I hate extremism. I don't know why people can't grasp the concept of moderation. Too much of anything is a bad thing, and that includes opinions.

You don't like guns, fine. Is it right for you to try and force your misguided opinions on others, no!
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Right on polygon, and dan, im going to use that, thats genious.



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