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Krisms 12-22-2012 02:45 PM

'accidental' discharge by equipment failure
 
hey folks. i am well aware of negligent discharge that some people mistake for 'accidental' discharge. however, i am curious if anyone is aware of any true accidental discharge where the gun just experienced a failure. i carry my ccw chambered and iwb and i sometimes worry if i'm standing up and kids just run around me in a party, or when i am standing on a 2nd floor apt with thin wood floors. technically in these situations the muzzle isn't necessarily pointed to safe direction. any thoughts?

trip286 12-22-2012 02:50 PM

We have a member here who competes, I think in IDPA. He had a discharge when he racked his slide to chamber a round in a competition. Maybe he'll stop in to tell the story.

HOSSFLY 12-22-2012 02:54 PM

I think you are asking if a gun has just gone off in the holster without being handled in any way?
If so never heard of that-

robocop10mm 12-22-2012 02:56 PM

Technically it is "possible" for a mechanical failure to result in an unintentional discharge, but that is VERY rare. The most common would be a "slam fire" where a stuck or broken firing pin causes a round to go off as it is chambered. If a gun is reasonably well maintained, it will not ever happen. In my experience people attempt to blame a mechanical malfunction for a lack of caution on their part. Guns go bang when the trigger is pressed, period. An untouched gun in a holster does not go off. An improperly holstered gun goes off when the trigger finger presses the trigger.

Rick1967 12-22-2012 03:00 PM

I have never had a problem with any of my carry guns. I carry with one in the chamber. However, I have a Jennings J-22 that is just for the range. There is one type of cheap ammo that does all kinds of crazy stuff in that gun. One time I let the slide go and it emptied the mag without me pulling the trigger. Any other time it would have jammed on the second shot. I would not normally use a 22 for self defense anyway. But if I did, it would be a well tested and superbly reliable gun. Any gun I carry I have put hundreds if not thousands of rounds down range with. I will not carry a gun that has a history of malfunctions at my hand.

JonM 12-22-2012 03:05 PM

ive seen it happen at a local range with some yahoo that was diying his own trigger job (stupid) set his gun down on the shelf at the range on the firing line and it went off and went full auto. fortunately it was pointed down range and was a 1911 with only 7 rounds and all 7 went down range.

someone called the police (wasnt me) they showed up about 30 minutes after it happened questioned him and took him, and the guns he had, away with them in handcuffs. im sure lucy had some splainin to do

never heard of it happening with a gun that hasnt been messed with including the remington 700.

trip286 12-22-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HOSSFLY (Post 1061915)
I think you are asking if a gun has just gone off in the holster without being handled in any way?
If so never heard of that-

Ah ha, I see now...
Yeah, that's not generally ever going to happen with a gun that's in good repair. I have never personally heard of a gun just going off on it's own outside of a slam fire or a major malfunction.

dragunovsks 12-22-2012 05:00 PM

Yes, my dad had an ad in the living room once. Not sure why he had his loaded Marlin 30-30 in the house but he is retired army national guard so I'm sure he had a reason. It discharged through the ceiling and roof and he says it was faulty, he had just bought the rifle so he called the manufacturer and they fixed it. That was 20 yr ago, I don't know of any others involving pistols.

Krisms 12-22-2012 05:05 PM

thanks for the inputs. my firearms are all stock (no mods) and are fairly well maintained. but the thought of accidental discharge while just sitting in a holster kinda worries me when the muzzle isn't just technically pointed to an inanimate object. just making sure i don't defeat the purpose of having a firearm in the first place.

HOSSFLY 12-22-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Krisms (Post 1062081)
thanks for the inputs. my firearms are all stock (no mods) and are fairly well maintained. but the thought of accidental discharge while just sitting in a holster kinda worries me when the muzzle isn't just technically pointed to an inanimate object. just making sure i don't defeat the purpose of having a firearm in the first place.

There are many other thing to worry about--
Kind of like your car my decide to explode because you have a full tank of gas--


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